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Started by psycho gundam3 pages

Originally posted by long pig
Agreed. Get rid of that big gay green turd sandwich.
hulk would be able to lend strength if he was in dc, count your blessings

Nah, pure bricks in DC are like pure Speedsters in Marvel: fewer and not nearly as respected as in the other company.

He'd be a green, heroic Solomon Grundy and you know it.

If he was part of a team all of his fights would consist of rushing into battle yelling Hulk Smash! only to get three paneled by the villain of the week. To show just how tough said villain is.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Nah, pure bricks in DC are like pure Speedsters in Marvel: fewer and not nearly as respected as in the other company.

He'd be a green, heroic Solomon Grundy and you know it.

If he was part of a team all of his fights would consist of rushing into battle yelling Hulk Smash! only to get three paneled by the villain of the week. To show just how tough said villain is.

He really brings nothing to the table. Why would you need hulk when you have Superman......etc. Oh and Grundy > Hulk

Originally posted by Hyperion Prime
Oh and Grundy > Hulk

Nah.

It depends on the version (avg Grundy is more or less = to some of Hulk's weaker versions) but I'd say only PC Grundy at his best was clearly above Hulk.

Smart Grundy though could give Hulk a really good fight, maybe win.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Nah.

It depends on the version (avg Grundy is more or less = to some of Hulk's weaker versions) but I'd say only PC Grundy at his best was clearly above Hulk.

Smart Grundy though could give Hulk a really good fight, maybe win.

I actually would love to see a Grundy Hulk fight. Last fight I saw of Grundy he was giving Bizzaro a hard time. But you are probablly right. I don't read much DC.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Nah.

It depends on the version (avg Grundy is more or less = to some of Hulk's weaker versions) but I'd say only PC Grundy at his best was clearly above Hulk.

Smart Grundy though could give Hulk a really good fight, maybe win.

maybe for a while, but every hero get's turned into an evil version and/or get's a gahtlike upgrade that puts them in a higher category temporarily (or at least seems that way), or they realize their "potential" and the snowball starts to roll

fernus, extent, monarch (the fusion of hulk's personalities, it would happen), parralax/ion, etc

with hulk's default power-set, he's just the strength version of flash so ....

Originally posted by Hyperion Prime
He really brings nothing to the table. Why would you need hulk when you have Superman......etc. Oh and Grundy > Hulk

Hulk hater. Hulk brings a lot to the table. That is why he is one of the most powerful beings in Marvel. Hulk is strength personified.

Stop hating.

Originally posted by carver9
Hulk hater. Hulk brings a lot to the table. That is why he is one of the most powerful beings in Marvel. Hulk is strength personified.

Stop hating.

He does bring alot to the table, but not like Martian Manhunter, Superman, and Wonder Woman. They are bricks with other powers ....they are more versatile. Maybe Hulk would do better if he could fly. There is more to a fight than strength when it comes to DC. Hulk just wouldn't be able to muscle his way through everything.

He would get ktfo by Doomsday, Despero, Konvict, Darkseid. Bizzaro etc. He needs more than strength.

Of course this will never happen but I'd LOVE the bat-family in Marvel.
Or Black Adam, they can kill Namor if necessary... 😮

Captain America is the obvious choice for DC. Guys like Surfer or Nova would fit too.

Originally posted by Hyperion Prime
He does bring alot to the table, but not like Martian Manhunter, Superman, and Wonder Woman. They are bricks with other powers ....they are more versatile. Maybe Hulk would do better if he could fly. There is more to a fight than strength when it comes to DC. Hulk just wouldn't be able to muscle his way through everything.

He would get ktfo by Doomsday, Despero, Konvict, Darkseid. Bizzaro etc. He needs more than strength.

In a comic Hulk would give Doomsday HELL and possibly beat him. Despero haven't done anything that Hulk didn't do. Hulk has taken on teams and crushed them and like I showed you... Hulk has done better against a high end being that the entire Marvel Earth squad couldn't do jack to. Hulk busted Onslaught sh** and every being on the planet was useless against him.

Konvikt...LOLOLOLHAHAHAHLOLOL, what can Konvikt do that Hulk can't do. Hulk would CRUSH Konikt. Darkseid, I will give you that but if he doesn't use his eye and fight brutish like he does majority of the time, he gets crushed by Hulk as well. Bizarro is a idiot and I can't believe you brought him up. Hulk has fought much better. Hell, Hulk was thrashing Genis... Genis>>Bizarro. Get your facts straight.

None of these people that you've named proved anything since Hulk has potential of beating them. Hell, in a crossover... didn't DC and Marvel have Hulk beating Doomsday and this was Professor Hulk...lol.

durhulk

Originally posted by carver9
In a comic Hulk would give Doomsday HELL and possibly beat him. Despero haven't done anything that Hulk didn't do. Hulk has taken on teams and crushed them and like I showed you... Hulk has done better against a high end being that the entire Marvel Earth squad couldn't do jack to. Hulk busted Onslaught sh** and every being on the planet was useless against him.

Konvikt...LOLOLOLHAHAHAHLOLOL, what can Konvikt do that Hulk can't do. Hulk would CRUSH Konikt. Darkseid, I will give you that but if he doesn't use his eye and fight brutish like he does majority of the time, he gets crushed by Hulk as well. Bizarro is a idiot and I can't believe you brought him up. Hulk has fought much better. Hell, Hulk was thrashing Genis... Genis>>Bizarro. Get your facts straight.

None of these people that you've named proved anything since Hulk has potential of beating them. Hell, in a crossover... didn't DC and Marvel have Hulk beating Doomsday and this was Professor Hulk...lol.

Dang...why you got to get all bent out of shape 😬

Originally posted by Hyperion Prime
Dang...why you got to get all bent out of shape 😬

😆

Its you... you are the only one I fuss with. Its something about you that make me fuss... are we related?

Originally posted by carver9
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Its you... you are the only one I fuss with. Its something about you that make me fuss... are we related?

I will give you another reason Hulk would not be needed in DC. Too many heavy hitters. You have to admit DC has way heavier hitters than Marvel. Hulk would have a hard time with Maxima. DC has too many heavy hitters.

And Konvikt would give Hulk a hard time. Like Omega Vision said Hulk is nothing, but Grundy. In battle he would be fodder.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
maybe for a while, but every hero get's turned into an evil version and/or get's a gahtlike upgrade that puts them in a higher category temporarily (or at least seems that way), or they realize their "potential" and the snowball starts to roll

fernus, extent, monarch (the fusion of hulk's personalities, it would happen), parralax/ion, etc

with hulk's default power-set, he's just the strength version of flash so ....


Those people you mentioned aren't as one-dimensional as Hulk though.

Monarch makes perfect sense given CA's true potential is Universal level quantum power, Fernus is what happens when a guy with a huge assortment of powers loses all PIS/CIS and becomes deadly in his use of combos.

I don't see Hulk in there. The only thing you can really do is make him stronger and tougher, but then he's still one-dimensional.

In DC pure bricks are almost all relegated to villainous punching bags.

Originally posted by Hyperion Prime
I will give you another reason Hulk would not be needed in DC. Too many heavy hitters. You have to admit DC has way heavier hitters than Marvel. Hulk would have a hard time with Maxima. DC has too many heavy hitters.

And Konvikt would give Hulk a hard time. Like Omega Vision said Hulk is nothing, but Grundy. In battle he would be fodder.

Uuummm, Hulk is stronger than Grundy and even if he was on Grundy level... its still isn't bad since Grundy isn't fodder...



Now who else would you like to say Hulk is like so that you can lowball?

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Those people you mentioned aren't as one-dimensional as Hulk though.

Monarch makes perfect sense given CA's true potential is Universal level quantum power, Fernus is what happens when a guy with a huge assortment of powers loses all PIS/CIS and becomes deadly in his use of combos.

I don't see Hulk in there. The only thing you can really do is make him stronger and tougher, but then he's still one-dimensional.

In DC pure bricks are almost all relegated to villainous punching bags.

flash was just as "one dimensional" as the hulk, then writers gave wally all these weird applications for the speed force. i don't see anything different with the hulk's strength, even the pre-retcon beyonder found no finite limit to it.

a lot of dc's energies have a anthropomorphic source/avatar, and he is very much like the flash. they even have similar creedo's

id like to see punisher in metropolis

Apocalypse might be a good fit for DC... He'd have a chance at a fresh start so he didn't suck so much.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
flash was just as "one dimensional" as the hulk, then writers gave wally all these weird applications for the speed force. i don't see anything different with the hulk's strength, even the pre-retcon beyonder found no finite limit to it.

a lot of dc's energies have a anthropomorphic source/avatar, and he is very much like the flash. they even have similar creedo's


Flash's powers all (or mostly anyway) come from bastardizations of real scientific concepts regarding speed.

Essentially Flash controls speed pure and simple.

Hulk on the other hand isn't some kind of physical avatar of strength and I very much doubt DC would make him that way.

He'd just be a dumb brick.