Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympusjesus ****ing christ rage, give it a rest. SNG would stomp thor in the astral plane, nova would crush him without mjolnir and the only way thor beats namor in the ocean is by using mjolnir or his elemental powers for what they're worth.
bakaThor's not getting stomped, in fact he'd win, and he only uses Mjolnir as a club against Namor (Barring one energy blast that missed). Throw in the showings where he illustrates flight without using the hammer, and this doesn't end well for Namor. Even discounting those instances, Thor can apparently swim faster than the fastest of fishes (lol) and has illustrated a lot of maneuverability in water including leaping.
If Thor's portrayed as about as maneuverable as the Hulk, and Namor's speed is shown to be a big advantage as it is against other bricks, allowing him to create a whirlpool or some such, it wouldn't end well as Namora learned. Not with Thor's mastery over the elements.
For the record, I'd favor Thor over Nova Prime in space with or without Mjolnir. Unfortunately, the Astral Plane/the Sun would be far too much of an advantage for Nate Grey/Kal-El.
To be fair, it was closer to a temporary/flash knock out or stun. Still, in that comic, the wisest course of action Namor could take would be to avoid Thor's attacks.
Originally posted by 753
jesus ****ing christ rage, give it a rest. SNG would stomp thor in the astral plane, nova would crush him without mjolnir and the only way thor beats namor in the ocean is by using mjolnir or his elemental powers for what they're worth.
Lol? I took a stance that I'm sticking with and it's also a stance I can support. I'm not forcing you to read my posts or agree with me. Stop being such a little b*tch and prove me wrong if you think I'm so incorrect. Since it's obviously so clear cut, it would be easy, no?
For the record, I pointed out that Thor would lose to Shaman Nate Grey in an astral plane battle. Not really sure why anyone would say otherwise as there's no evidence to support the stance. You think so? Okay, I disagree.
Originally posted by dmills
I got a kick out of the "power to leap out of water" 😂 I also love how in those days they explained every action in the panel in painstaking detail lol. I guess they assumed the reader was stupid!
Some readers still need that. Like when you see colossus and Cyclops talking and then they go and fight some other dude, some readers assume that means Colossus can take a full blast from Cyke with no damage. 😂
Also being in water is not enough of an advantage for Namor.
Most of the exposition during action sequences was being done in a first person narrative by the character in either a speech bubble or a thought bubble. They also would make extensive use of captions as a plot driver as well.
Nowadays thought bubbles are all but extinct, and captions are used as a narration device to elaborate on plots as well as character thoughts. Ultimately it makes for a more streamlined book I suppose, but very often I find that the reader is left clueless as to the true intent of a particular scene, and thus forced to interpolate.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympusyour interpretation of thor bugs everyone uhuh. but yeah it looks like I misread your post about nate. the nova thing has been pretty much decided on the other thread as nova winning. As for thor vs namor, like I said, he'd need to use his elemental powers for what they're worth on the water to beat namor your post implied if they just slugged it out underwater thor could beat him with his stats alone.
To be fair, it was closer to a temporary/flash knock out or stun. Still, in that comic, the wisest course of action Namor could take would be to avoid Thor's attacks.Lol? I took a stance that I'm sticking with and it's also a stance I can support. I'm not forcing you to read my posts or agree with me. Stop being such a little b*tch and prove me wrong if you think I'm so incorrect. Since it's obviously so clear cut, it would be easy, no?
For the record, I pointed out that Thor would lose to Shaman Nate Grey in an astral plane battle. Not really sure why anyone would say otherwise as there's no evidence to support the stance. You think so? Okay, I disagree.
Originally posted by 753
your interpretation of thor bugs everyone uhuh. but yeah it looks like I misread your post about nate. the nova thing has been pretty much decided on the other thread as nova winning. As for thor vs namor, like I said, he'd need to use his elemental powers for what they're worth on the water to beat namor your post implied if they just slugged it out underwater thor could beat him with his stats alone.
My interpretation? When I'm actually discussing a topic, everything I bring up or any stance I take, I can support with actual on panel evidence.
Decided? Not even close. Ignoring the flawed logic that numbers = right, a majority of people posting Nova stomps just for the hell of it doesn't mean it's decided. Not even close. If you want, you can reply to my post, dispute my points. I'll be more than happy to debate the topic with you. Like I said, it should be easy with me so obviously being in the wrong, right?
If they had a slug fest under water, Thor would beat Namor. If they had an actual battle underwater, Namor's speed would offer an advantage but only to an extent as he's not fighting the Hulk here. Thor has a great deal of maneuverability under water and flight capabilities without Mjolnir.
For the record, if Thor used his elemental and energy based powers, he'd wreck Namor in the air, on land, and under the sea.