Shaman X-Man Vs Loki

Started by "Id"2 pages

I don’t know how Psi meshes with Magic. We don’t have a clear point of reference for Nate. The closes thing to a magical confrontation, was when he ran into the Great Beast. But since we are in the talk of offensive output….

Than you gotta love the way Warren Ellis wrote Nate. He is a bio weapon, engineered for mass genocide. A psi weapon, rivaled by none. He can expunge all life from Earth telepathically, or snuff out the sun telekinetically.

According to The Harvester, Queen Jean, and acknowledged by himself. He is a planet wrecker. Yet wrecking a planet does not seem to be his upper limit. It could be far higher, Blaquesmith states he has the power to tear apart the astral plane.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus

I didn't say it was very large, but in terms of raw power, Loki is superior from what I've seen. For example, Loki unleashed a planet shattering level attack once,

I would love to see this scan. Loki never striked me as the kind that walked with that kind of power.

Using his future sight, Nate is seen wrecking the planet. Ness foresees the same outcome.
http://img355.imageshack.us/img355/9936/xman0390708.jpg
http://img130.imageshack.us/img130/6392/xman047page09image0001.jpg

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus

has briefly held his own against the pantheon amped Seth in his own dimension etc.


I didn’t know Loki was the kind of guy that can physically stand up to cosmic powered. Would love to see these scans as well.

He briefly traded hits with Modt.
http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/7696/xman55p13.jpg
http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/7171/xman55p14.jpg
http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/2511/xman55p15.jpg

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus

I'm more inclined to believe that Loki's mental powers are enough to shield him from a mental attack than Nate being able to counter Loki's magic.

Regarded as thee most powerful telepath on Earth. You don’t think the following mental attack would effect Loki?
http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/3635/cable03106.jpg
http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/2321/cable03107.jpg

Originally posted by "Id"
I would love to see this scan. Loki never striked me as the kind that walked with that kind of power.

Sorry for the late reply. I don't have access to scans of Loki so I had to wait until I could get the issues. Unfortunately I couldn't find the more direct planet shattering statement, but here's a not so different scene:
http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/6086/earthshattering.jpg

For what it's worth, Dormammu also admitted that Loki's evil power nearly rivaled his own and at one point Mephisto said only Loki's villainy nearly equaled his own.

Originally posted by "Id"
Using his future sight, Nate is seen wrecking the planet. Ness foresees the same outcome.
http://img355.imageshack.us/img355/9936/xman0390708.jpg
http://img130.imageshack.us/img130/6392/xman047page09image0001.jpg

Was it an extinction level event or actually a planet destroying blast? It's been too long for me to remember accurately. Did he ever make any comments regarding Qabiri destroying the Earth? That might give us some idea. Nate should be capable of moon busting power.

Originally posted by "Id"
I didn’t know Loki was the kind of guy that can physically stand up to cosmic powered. Would love to see these scans as well.

He briefly traded hits with Modt.
http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/7696/xman55p13.jpg
http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/7171/xman55p14.jpg
http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/2511/xman55p15.jpg

Here you go:
http://img651.imageshack.us/img651/1706/lokiseth1.jpg
http://img823.imageshack.us/img823/7650/lokiseth2.jpg
http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/7648/lokiseth3.jpg
http://img836.imageshack.us/img836/8522/lokiseth4.jpg
http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/6519/lokiseth5.jpg

Loki ends up coming back:
http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/9523/lokiseth6.jpg
http://img545.imageshack.us/img545/2812/lokiseth7.jpg

If you want some more demonstrations of power, here he owns the Thor Corps:
http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/8798/lokicorps1.jpg
http://img694.imageshack.us/img694/1678/lokicorps2.jpg
http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/708/lokicorps3.jpg
http://img690.imageshack.us/img690/166/lokicorps4.jpg
http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/1157/lokicorps5.jpg
http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/9029/lokicorps6.jpg
http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/1831/lokicorps7.jpg
http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/4170/lokicorps8.jpg
http://img824.imageshack.us/img824/3290/lokicorps9.jpg

Vs. Surtur:
http://imageshack.us/f/139/thor198535306qv3.jpg/

Stalemates Karnilla herself:
http://img715.imageshack.us/img715/6340/karnillaloki1.jpg
http://img832.imageshack.us/img832/6209/karnillaloki2.jpg

Vs. Surfer:
http://img822.imageshack.us/img822/4571/surferloki1.jpg
http://img857.imageshack.us/img857/1889/surferloki2.jpg
http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/6945/surferloki3.jpg
http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/2018/surferloki4.jpg
http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/1901/surferloki5.jpg
http://img823.imageshack.us/img823/2378/surferloki6.jpg

It should be noted that Norrin was weakened due to being inside the barrier. Loki however was more than likely toying with him. I also included the Trickster easily breaking through Galactus' barrier. Something worth mentioning as I recall.

Originally posted by "Id"
Regarded as thee most powerful telepath on Earth. You don’t think the following mental attack would effect Loki?
http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/3635/cable03106.jpg
http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/2321/cable03107.jpg

I didn't say Loki was immune to Nate's mental powers, that would be baseless. My statement was clear. I'm more inclined to believe Loki resisting a mental attack in comparison to Nate resisting a magical based attack. Loki has entered/read/wiped/altered the minds of mortals, Asgardians and even the Super Skrull at one point. He has projected his consciousness across light years and so on. At one point, an Astral form of himself was kicking Doctor Strange's ass, albeit prior to inheriting the Sorceror's Supreme title. Loki also amped the mental powers of Sandu who he pointed out was still inferior to himself. He hasn't shown much in the way of raw power himself but I think there's enough evidence to at least gives an estimation as to what level he's playing at.

Didn't Amora punk Charles when he tried to enter her mind during Secret Wars? Just curious.