Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
If that happens...Dude!!! Comics are so rife with BS its ridiculous!! 3 Skyfathers cant even tickle Arishem, but Odin all by himself can beat Galactus...
Screw it; I'll just keep playing DC Universe...
Odin was at his lowest point against the Celestials -Thomas didn't like powerful Skyfathers for some reason- and the metallic bastards were above everyone. Yes, including Galactus.
Good writer but some of his work annoyed me.
Originally posted by Zack Fair
Superman shouldn't lift it. While I think he is worthy in that the hammer couldn't be in better hands, I think it requires more than just being uber good. Perhaps the will to go to arms when it is needed?Goku being a Superman ripoff shouldn't lift it either IMHO.
exactly, you have to be willing to do what is needed and kill if necessary
Originally posted by Hyperion Prime
Ares is a god though. He isn't really evil like Loki or Seth. Everytime I have ever seen Ares he seemed to be doing what he thought was right. He has also been manipulated by Pluto and Hera. He to me is no more evil than the Punisher.
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/96/ares1w.jpg/
"the rape of nations, the genocide of people, to rejoice in blood and pain." The guy chooses who he backs up in a war based on which is the more brutal.
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/34/ares2c.jpg/
When he has defeated the forces of Hades, Ares orders for them to be sliced in half, and one half be sent back to Tartarus while the other half is burned, so that if they ever escape Tartarus, they will never be complete.
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/42/ares3n.jpg/
"...and it feels good"
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/831/ares4k.jpg/
"Let me feel their blood on my hands! Let me see the fear in their eyes! Let me feel death in my grip!"
No dude, the guy is evil as all hell. And that's just from his mini where they tried like hell to make him seem better. I'm not including when he shot Hercules with Hydra blood to drive him insane with torturous pain, or all the other dozens of evil plots.
Originally posted by Zack Fair
Superman shouldn't lift it. While I think he is worthy in that the hammer couldn't be in better hands, I think it requires more than just being uber good. Perhaps the will to go to arms when it is needed?Goku being a Superman ripoff shouldn't lift it either IMHO.
And when have Superman or Goku ever hesitated to go to arms??? How is Superman any different than Steve Rogers picking up the hammer? Eric masterson how was he ready to go to war when he picked up the hammer. Half the time masterson didnt even want to fight.
Edit: I think Masterson was given the power by Odin. Now I have to go into my comics and read. I hate that.
Originally posted by ~The Wickerman~
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/96/ares1w.jpg/"the rape of nations, the genocide of people, to rejoice in blood and pain." The guy chooses who he backs up in a war based on which is the more brutal.
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/34/ares2c.jpg/
When he has defeated the forces of Hades, Ares orders for them to be sliced in half, and one half be sent back to Tartarus while the other half is burned, so that if they ever escape Tartarus, they will never be complete.
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/42/ares3n.jpg/
"...and it feels good"
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/831/ares4k.jpg/
"Let me feel their blood on my hands! Let me see the fear in their eyes! Let me feel death in my grip!"
No dude, the guy is evil as all hell. And that's just from his mini where they tried like hell to make him seem better. I'm not including when he shot Hercules with Hydra blood to drive him insane with torturous pain, or all the other dozens of evil plots.
Thanks for posting these.
Originally posted by Hyperion Prime
And when have Superman or Goku ever hesitated to go to arms??? How is Superman any different than Steve Rogers picking up the hammer? Eric masterson how was he ready to go to war when he picked up the hammer. Half the time masterson didnt even want to fight.Edit: I think Masterson was given the power by Odin. Now I have to go into my comics and read. I hate that.
are they willing to kill for the greater good? thats a true warrior
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Odin was at his lowest point against the Celestials -Thomas didn't like powerful Skyfathers for some reason- and the metallic bastards were above everyone. Yes, including Galactus.Good writer but some of his work annoyed me.
They also tanked "All of Asgard inhabited" Asgardian Destroyers best attacks, excepting the Odin Sword.
And yet Thor could bust their armor. 💃
Originally posted by Black bolt z
And lol at goku not being worthy of lifting the hammer
The funny thing is if you have to be a killer to wield the hammer then why was Steve Rogers able to use the hammer. He is so against killing, but people post without thinking. "I guess Steve Rogers isn't a true warrior since he dosent kill" Yet he held the hammer. That shuts down that lame argument.
Originally posted by Hyperion PrimeAnd not only that but Goku has killed. He only does it when there is absolutely no other option, but he did kill(or tried to kill) freiza, after freiza used the energy goku gave him to attack.
The funny thing is if you have to be a killer to wield the hammer then why was Steve Rogers able to use the hammer. He is so against killing, but people post without thinking. "I guess Steve Rogers isn't a true warrior since he dosent kill" Yet he held the hammer. That shuts down that lame argument.
He also killed buu(but buu was a completely evil abomination with no chance of redemption).
Did he kill anyone in regular Dragon Ball? Piccolo...anyone else?
Originally posted by Black bolt z
And not only that but Goku has killed. He only does it when there is absolutely no other option, but he did kill(or tried to kill) freiza, after freiza used the energy goku gave him to attack.He also killed buu(but buu was a completely evil abomination with no chance of redemption).
Did he kill anyone in regular Dragon Ball? Piccolo...anyone else?
He tried his best to kill Brolly. He killed Cooler (at least he thought he did) He killed all of the Ginyu force that's why they wound up in hell. DBZ haters
Originally posted by Hyperion Primewell he did kill Nazi's back in the day...
The funny thing is if you have to be a killer to wield the hammer then why was Steve Rogers able to use the hammer. He is so against killing, but people post without thinking. "I guess Steve Rogers isn't a true warrior since he dosent kill" Yet he held the hammer. That shuts down that lame argument.
Originally posted by Hyperion PrimeActually...vegeta killed the ginyu force. Goku beat them, then vegeta killed them.
He tried his best to kill Brolly. He killed Cooler (at least he thought he did) He killed all of the Ginyu force that's why they wound up in hell. DBZ haters
Originally posted by Lord FeronAnd goku is about a lot more than just killing.
Being a warrior is more than about killing. Justsayin...
Originally posted by Hyperion Prime
He tried his best to kill Brolly. He killed Cooler (at least he thought he did) He killed all of the Ginyu force that's why they wound up in hell. DBZ haters
Not to mention he killed most of the Red Ribbon Army, and Piccolo Daimao.
And as for his character, he's also totally without evil, which is why Akuman couldn't target the evil in his heart and make it explode.
He should be a good candidate for the hammer, imo.
