Akuma vs. Dark Kahn

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Akuma vs. Dark Kahn

is this closer? 馃槙

Needs moar battle description.

Originally posted by GVSSK
is this closer? 馃槙

Not even. The difference is much greater this time, but it's the MK character that is far more powerful.

It would seem that way, but that game had massive power creep power seep. Darkside at his regular seems more powerful.

Well it was said that Dark Kahn is more powerful than Darkseid.

Anyway, Dark Kahn stomps.

Even if regular Darkseid is more powerful than MK's Dark Kahn, DK apparently had Darkseid's Omega Abilities. The Omega Effect is more than enough for Akuma.

He was also responsible for merging two universes together and moving people between the two universes via ground pounds.

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Even if regular Darkseid is more powerful than MK's Dark Kahn, DK apparently had Darkseid's Omega Abilities. The Omega Effect is more than enough for Akuma.

He was also responsible for merging two universes together and moving people between the two universes via ground pounds.

I'm thinking the storyline forced them together.

But if he is more powerful than Darkseid he is of course too powerful. What was the "accepted" ending in that game, and if they were all weakened how did they beat him?

Shao Kahn has punched through dimensions too if I'm not mistaken. It's hard to quantify by itself.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
What was the "accepted" ending in that game, and if they were all weakened how did they beat him?

Basically the last ones standing, Raiden and Superman, had to team up to beat him, the latter of whom was no longer weakened by near the end of the game. And the MK characters became as strong as the DC characters due to the power fluxes as a result of the universes merging, so yeah. Crazy stuff.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
I'm thinking the storyline forced them together.

But if he is more powerful than Darkseid he is of course too powerful. What was the "accepted" ending in that game, and if they were all weakened how did they beat him?

Shao Kahn has punched through dimensions too if I'm not mistaken. It's hard to quantify by itself.

I think it was him. His very presence started the merger, and with his 'RAGE' facepalm2, was able to speed up the process substantially.

I think Raiden and Superman worked together, while using his own RAGE against him. Once DK was destroyed, the merger reversed itself completely.

Dunno about Shao Kahn, but I'd think that he can only punch through realms, which are different from Universes.
And those ground pounds of his that transported Kano to DC etc. also erased people like Goro, Cage & Aquaman from existence.

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
I think it was him. His very presence started the merger, and with his 'RAGE' facepalm2, was able to speed up the process substantially.

I think Raiden and Superman worked together, while using his own RAGE against him. Once DK was destroyed, the merger reversed itself completely.

Dunno about Shao Kahn, but I'd think that he can only punch through realms, which are different from Universes.
And those ground pounds of his that transported Kano to DC etc. also erased people like Goro, Cage & Aquaman from existence.

Well that's what I mean, the merger caused power creep power seep (for game balance) which is why I questioned his power level. It would seem he would be comparable to them (of course somewhat more powerful).

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Well that's what I mean, the merger caused power creep power seep (for game balance) which is why I questioned his power level. It would seem he would be comparable to them (of course somewhat more powerful).

Yeah, but by the game's climax, Superman himself noted that he was as powerful as he was before the whole thing, while Batman stated that Kahn was more powerful than 'Seid.

Raiden was able to stalemate Superman more or less as well before they fought DK.

I've seen the endings, but I don't remember Kahn being more powerful than Seid. You mean 'seid at his normal showings?

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
I've seen the endings, but I don't remember Kahn being more powerful than Seid. You mean 'seid at his normal showings?

Well, assuming 'seid in MKvsDC is regular ol 'seid, yeah, DK would be more powerful than 'seid at his normal showings.

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Arrrgh so much power creep power seep. What is the best thing he's done? The stories all intertwine.

Best thing he's done? I'd assume it would be merging two universes just through his existence, and quickening the process via others fighting.
Other than that:

a) He's much more powerful than a guy that nearly killed Superman, as per Batman's words.
b) He can use the Omega Beams at the levels that Darkseid does.
c) He can erase people from existence, though it is a random process it seems.
d) He can fill people like Superman & Captain Marvel with incredible bloodlust.
e) He overpowered Superman and Raiden (who was as powerful as Superman at that point given by how Raiden either barely bests him, or barely loses to him) with a hand blast for each.

Most of those are enough to destroy Akuma.
You could argue that the DC characters are not really at their comic level of power, but considering that power creep power seeps were needed and explained in plot, I'd say they were operating at their normal levels before the merger.

DK's crazy powerful, but he could have been handled far better as a character, or he shouldn't have existed at all. I'd wager that Birdie is a better character than Dark Kahn. facepalm2

Dark Kahn is such a terrible character facepalm

Is this Cosmic/Herald Gouki? Or cfj shin Gouki? That would be very fair. CFJ Shin Gouki might infact be overkill.

What did CFJ Shin Gouki do?

EDIT: Just saw his ending.
He busts a meteor, and he's overkill against a guy that can stomp Superman?

CFJ Gouki is stronger than a 400,000 light year sized character who merged five universes and three dimensions at once, on on a whim out, of boredom.........

That's more than enough.

Seriously? He beat...Pyron?