Originally posted by Nihilist
Is Rage blind or just bias? Odin clearly has his arm raised to block the punch
Odin's arm was raised. That was never in contention. I'm just in doubt that it was raised with the intention of blocking the attack. Not when it was unable to budge his forearm. Most likely, it was happenstance. Imo. I think such a distinction is worth mentioning.
Originally posted by celestialdemon
Pure physical with no amp at all? Thanos wins.
Yeah, Thanos doesn't get to amp, but neither does Odin.
Which means this is just Odin without the Odin-Force vs Thanos without his shields.
So, how strong is Odin without his powers? Because, we know Thanos without using shields is still pretty durable...
Originally posted by cdtm
Yeah, Thanos doesn't get to amp, but neither does Odin.Which means this is just Odin without the Odin-Force vs Thanos without his shields.
So, how strong is Odin without his powers? Because, we know Thanos without using shields is still pretty durable...
yea...there is no way odin is taking out thanos in just hand to hand
Odin should be as strong if not stronger then Thanos, he is the father of Thor after all. Speed should be equal, reactionspeed goes to Odin imho. Durability against physical attacks, well I think Odin takes it handily. H2H skill, Odin is a Warriorgod with thousands of years worth of experience. Thanos has trained Gamora, yeah but he is more the science Nerd. I think Odin has more fighting experience overall.
Odin 9-10/10
Don't make me explain again, Rage will do it for me 😄.
Originally posted by cdtm
Yeah, Thanos doesn't get to amp, but neither does Odin.Which means this is just Odin without the Odin-Force vs Thanos without his shields.
So, how strong is Odin without his powers? Because, we know Thanos without using shields is still pretty durable...
This is supposed to be a physical contest. Which means they brawl it out instead of using energy based attacks. I'm not really sure how removing the Odin Force would make sense. Might as well strip Thanos of his all his cosmic energy or Galactus of the Power Cosmic and place them in a vs. thread.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
This is supposed to be a physical contest. Which means they brawl it out instead of using energy based attacks. I'm not really sure how removing the Odin Force would make sense. Might as well strip Thanos of his all his cosmic energy or Galactus of the Power Cosmic and place them in a vs. thread.
The thread Op did say "no other powers allowed". If he uses the Odin Force to amp his physical stats, that's using a power, no?
If he isn't using the Odin Force to increase his strength or durability, he's effectively stripped of it, considering he can't tap it for the fight.
For the record, this unamped crap stems from the handbooks. Odin doesn't have to consciously will himself to be stronger just to be beyond Thanos physically from what I remember. He walks around at that level.
Originally posted by cdtm
The thread Op did say "no other powers allowed". If he uses the Odin Force to amp his physical stats, that's using a power, no?If he isn't using the Odin Force to increase his strength or durability, he's effectively stripped of it, considering he can't tap it for the fight.
No other powers allowed more than likely refers to blasting, teleportation, matter manipulation and the like.
Removing the Odin Force from Odin is like removing the Power Cosmic from Galactus or Solar Energy from Superman. It leaves the character powerless. The Odin Force is the sum of Odin's power. It is Odin. It's his life blood. He can't even truly leave this plane of existence while it's still out there.
If you want to remove the Odin Force, let's remove the cosmic energy that empowers Thanos. I mean, that's what he taps into for his might isn't it?
@ Rage we've seen him physically beaten lately by far less. We also see he didn't really even hurt the Surfer or portrayed as beyond the Surfer like he has around the time of blood and thunder.
Thanos manhandled someone physically who treated the Surfer like a nobody while Odin and Thor failed to beat him with multiple attacks/cheapshots.
Thanos>Mar-vell>Odin.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
For the record, this unamped crap stems from the handbooks. Odin doesn't have to consciously will himself to be stronger just to be beyond Thanos physically. He walks around at that level.No other powers allowed more than likely refers to blasting, teleportation, matter manipulation and the like.
Removing the Odin Force from Odin is like removing the Power Cosmic from Galactus or Solar Energy from Superman. It leaves the character powerless. The Odin Force is the sum of Odin's power. It is Odin. It's his life blood. He can't even truly leave this plane of existence while it's still out there.
If you want to remove the Odin Force, let's remove the cosmic energy that empowers Thanos. I mean, that's what he taps into for his might isn't it?
I know they don't count but the Handbooks have Odin at class 60
Edit: he must be amping to match these guys strength.
Originally posted by Hyperion Prime
I know they don't count but the Handbooks have Odin at class 60Edit: he must be amping to match these guys strength.
I want to see the evidence to support that entry.
Must he? Then why have Odin Force wielders been so powerful physical when not illustration any actual amping or even while weakened?
Originally posted by quanchi112
@ Rage we've seen him physically beaten lately by far less. We also see he didn't really even hurt the Surfer or portrayed as beyond the Surfer like he has around the time of blood and thunder.Thanos manhandled someone physically who treated the Surfer like a nobody while Odin and Thor failed to beat him with multiple attacks/cheapshots.
Thanos>Mar-vell>Odin.
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Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I want to see the evidence to support that entry.Must he? Then why have Odin Force wielders been so powerful physical when not illustration any actual amping or even while weakened?
I would think Thor would seem so strong, because he is already strong. I have never seen Odin do anything physically greater than what Thor has done without the odin force.
Granted the Odin force amps Thor, but it probably helps him alot less than it helps Odin at least physically.
Definitely.
Originally posted by Hyperion Prime
I would think Thor would seem so strong, because he is already strong. I have never seen Odin do anything physically greater than what Thor has done without the odin force.Granted the Odin force amps Thor, but it probably helps him alot less than it helps Odin at least physically.
How about Heimdall no selling attacks from Mjolnir, Odin holding up a very large weight, one shotting Ulik, withstanding attacks from an incredibly powerful entity etc.? Bear in mind these are all instances when the Odin Force is noticeably drained or weakened.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Definitely.How about Heimdall no selling attacks from Mjolnir, Odin holding up a very large weight, one shotting Ulik, withstanding attacks from an incredibly powerful entity etc.? Bear in mind these are all instances when the Odin Force is noticeably drained or weakened.
Then maybe....just maybe the Odin force does make you stronger without amping. I see your point, but I am on the fence with it.