Delph's League of Champions, Season 2.1 Discussion Thread

Started by Digi2 pages
Originally posted by illadelph12
You have the option to change your roster. It's not required.

Required becomes relative in such a format. Giving your opponents a chance to adapt while you do nothing is likely a quick way to an early exit. For anyone serious about winning, changes would be mandatory.

That said, this tournament was hilarious and awesome when you first ran it. I never thought the early stoppages were your fault, and had a lot of fun in them.

I'd consider joining but will likely just judge. Including low heralds makes it a fair amount less enticing to me. Good luck though.

Yeah, for some reason my tournaments do exceptionally well in the regular rounds, but when we get down to the last couple weeks (usually playoffs or finals), judges and competitors disappear or have other obligations and momentum dies. Maybe it's the time of year I've normally ran them. I'd like to get it done before the major holidays at year end. I'm thinking September to Mid November as the run time (11 weeks would span about that long).

You always made a good showing in my tourneys, Digi. Even in the tourney I had on HoZ (which I wish we'd gotten a chance to complete. That was a good one). Hell, you even revolutionized OPs with the first (and only ever) audio OP in board history. That was great. I'm hoping someone makes a video OP one day. That'd be sick.

You should compete. You were one of the stronger competitors in Season 1. Didn't you finish in 3rd after leading the pack almost all season long?

Technically the match determining 3rd and 4th place was never held so we can't say who has the bronze in the Season 1 - me or Digi.

Originally posted by illadelph12
Anyone else against experience carrying forward? Or maybe, more specifically, we should define what exactly counts as 'experience' that carries forward.

If I remember correctly (it's been a while so this is probably an incomplete recap) what caused the biggest conflict was Digi's use of Death's Head II's assimilation to absorb two members of the Marvel Family's souls (which was stored as information) and basically trying to use that as a means of 'Shazam-ing' Death's Head II into a Minion/Captain Marvel hybrid as his argument was that the memories/experiences of Mary and Freddy inside of Minion were enough to summon the lightning, and I ruled that a 'soul' was, sans theological romanticism, simply a collection of information (memories, experiences, etc) which were legal to acquire per rule.


Simply define "experience" as something that can be obtained by every viable means of copying (TP, assimilation, photographic memory etc) as is skills or maybe memories. No Legion-style personality copying - only skills and knowledge can be carried forward. No spiritual connections, no results of molecular body scans that can be used as a loophole in "no copying powers" rule - Minion and Kane, I look at you🙂

Hmm...

What do the rest of you think?

Also, how about data (like downloading weapon specs)?

Originally posted by illadelph12
Anyone else against experience carrying forward? Or maybe, more specifically, we should define what exactly counts as 'experience' that carries forward.

If I remember correctly (it's been a while so this is probably an incomplete recap) what caused the biggest conflict was Digi's use of Death's Head II's assimilation to absorb two members of the Marvel Family's souls (which was stored as information) and basically trying to use that as a means of 'Shazam-ing' Death's Head II into a Minion/Captain Marvel hybrid as his argument was that the memories/experiences of Mary and Freddy inside of Minion were enough to summon the lightning, and I ruled that a 'soul' was, sans theological romanticism, simply a collection of information (memories, experiences, etc) which were legal to acquire per rule.


Sounds pretty shaky to me.

I don't think merely having their experiences would translate to retaining their connection to the ROE/Shazam.

Yeah, I said as much at the time. I allowed the memory/soul assimilation, but left whether it would equate to Digi's proposed results open to the interpretation of the judges (and opponents) themselves. It was Digi's case to prove.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Sounds pretty shaky to me.

I don't think merely having their experiences would translate to retaining their connection to the ROE/Shazam.

Well. of course it sounds shaky when you're just reading the synopsis. I had literally dozens of scans either suggesting or outright proving that what he copied into himself was more than simply experiences. Hell, someone performs a mystical exorcism on him to remove one of the beings he had assimilated. Exorcisms can't be performed on synapses.

It was actually a bit of a cluster**** though because of delph's ruling. Not that it was his fault, but in saying that a soul was stripped of any theological meaning and was just memories and information, it contradicted the idea that a soul is some "otherness" that the judges needed to believe the whole Marvel transformation and also contradicted some of the scans I was using. I had some judges with me, others against me, and got an unlucky draw in the playoffs with no judges in a particular match that had signed off on the idea earlier in the tourney.

I really wish we'd finished that tourney properly. It was really good. Deserved a proper ending rather than a default win by no show. The other tourney with the interactive battlefields as well. There were some really interesting strategies in that one. King Kandy's meteor strike plan was genius.

Also, given issues with poster participation as of late, I think this tourney will be singles rather than teams of posters. That way we can get a larger field of combatants. With teams the load can be shared, but then we wind up with only 4-5 teams competing. I want at least 8 different combatants.

Good luck with this Delph