Originally posted by quanchi112
I cited evidence whereas you believe screaming prove it without offering anything of merit on your end is debating demonstrates your lack of intelligence.
Quan, when you allow yourself to post a sentence structured this bad, you have no room to call anyone on lack of intelligence.
Originally posted by Darkstorm ZeroChannard also had powers. Kirsty defeated Pinhead in the first one. She also helped Tiffany defeat the shitty Cenobites in the sequel. You need to rewatch the films as the cenobites lose to mere mortals and each other.
The context you keep ignoring is that Chanard was also a Cenobite. No mortal has ever defeated a Cenobite beyond the toymakers descendant directly.The Lament Configuration Cube is THE only way to stop them beyond going Cenobite themselves. No amount of pain Voldemort can conjure could ever incapacitate a Cenobite, because he cannot imagine the level of pain they inflict on themselves, or each other, and certainly not more than what Leviathan has already inflicted and continues to inflict upon them. Mortal imagination does not go that far.
That is the only way in the films not the only way out of all fiction. You are ridiculous. Channard killed cenobites with cutting mechanisms that killed the. They were dead immediately on impact. Comparing that to a spell designed to torture you is beyond stupid. Basically you are saying killing someone really fast and brutally is torturing beyond imagining.
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I cited evidence which you ignored while spouting nonsense.
Same old, kiddo. Now take your leave, fanboy.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Channard also had powers. Kirsty defeated Pinhead in the first one. She also helped Tiffany defeat the shitty Cenobites in the sequel. You need to rewatch the films as the cenobites lose to mere mortals and each other.
Kirsty defeated them by trickery and redirecting them while she reconfigured the cube. This is exhibit A of proof you have not seen any Hellraiser.
Cenobites killing each other now somehow translates to mortals being able to do the same. Quan Logic is back.
Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
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Originally posted by quanchi112
That is the only way in the films not the only way out of all fiction. You are ridiculous. Channard killed cenobites with cutting mechanisms that killed the. They were dead immediately on impact. Comparing that to a spell designed to torture you is beyond stupid. Basically you are saying killing someone really fast and brutally is torturing beyond imagining.
So basically, you are making a blind blanket claim without evidence. Excellent.
This is Exhibit B: They were killed by Chanard's tentacles, after re-acquiring their human memories. Chanard's connection to Leviathan enabled him to mete out Leviathan's justice within his own realm. If you believe Voldemort can replicate these circumstances to achieve the same result, then prove it, but completely nixing these contextual circumstances and saying "They feel pain, Crucio must work!" is dishonest and stupid. You have no evidence it would work on proper Cenobites when they are at full power.
Originally posted by quanchi112
I cited evidence which you ignored while spouting nonsense.
What ****ing evidence? You presented youtube knowledge of the Chanard fight, and then proceeded to make bold claims without anything from anywhere to back it beyond "they felt human pain that one time...." Seriously, that scene had a very specific set of circumstances that are not replicated here. The Cenobites were humanised by their memories thanks to Tiffany and Kirsty, their opponent was getting direct power from Leviathan. Vold has no such assistance here.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Same old, kiddo. Now take your leave, fanboy.
Hows about trying to win this debate honestly for once? I mean seriously, just this once, I would like to see you put some mother**king effort and genuine arguments into a debate, rather than dozens of pages that are completely worthless. Get people interested, stop the trolling man...
I believe Pinhead and his Cenobites win this, and at one point, so did you. However, I am well aware of Voldemort's resourcefulness and capability. He may win a few times, Magic is a funny thing, and he and the Death Eaters may pull off a few upsets with some of the more obscure spells and curses. However, Crucio is not among them. The wizards aren't going to beat them through direct damage.
Originally posted by Darkstorm ZeroI bring up another human beating them which you ignored and now I have not seen the film. 😂
Kirsty defeated them by trickery and redirecting them while she reconfigured the cube. This is exhibit A of proof you have not seen any Hellraiser.Cenobites killing each other now somehow translates to mortals being able to do the same. Quan Logic is back.
So basically, you are making a blind blanket claim without evidence. Excellent.
This is Exhibit B: They were killed by Chanard's tentacles, after re-acquiring their human memories. Chanard's connection to Leviathan enabled him to mete out Leviathan's justice within his own realm. If you believe Voldemort can replicate these circumstances to achieve the same result, then prove it, but completely nixing these contextual circumstances and saying "They feel pain, Crucio must work!" is dishonest and stupid. You have no evidence it would work on proper Cenobites when they are at full power.
What ****ing evidence? You presented youtube knowledge of the Chanard fight, and then proceeded to make bold claims without anything from anywhere to back it beyond "they felt human pain that one time...." Seriously, that scene had a very specific set of circumstances that are not replicated here. The Cenobites were humanised by their memories thanks to Tiffany and Kirsty, their opponent was getting direct power from Leviathan. Vold has no such assistance here.
Hows about trying to win this debate honestly for once? I mean seriously, just this once, I would like to see you put some mother**king effort and genuine arguments into a debate, rather than dozens of pages that are completely worthless. Get people interested, stop the trolling man...
I believe Pinhead and his Cenobites win this, and at one point, so did you. However, I am well aware of Voldemort's resourcefulness and capability. He may win a few times, Magic is a funny thing, and he and the Death Eaters may pull off a few upsets with some of the more obscure spells and curses. However, Crucio is not among them. The wizards aren't going to beat them through direct damage.
Cenobites showed simple cutting instruments killed them. So you ignore that and say cenobites, dude. You're a shit debater and an awful person. I cite evidence. Humans trick these dummies.
Prove that claim. Prove that leviathan allowed this and it was not Channard acting independently. You made a claim so prove it. My claim is the evidence and what was used. Channard slaughtered them and quite easily. We see other cenobites killed by the futuristic toy maker descendant.
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Pinhead feels pain at full power as did Channard. Watch the films
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Pinhead felt pain in another film and Channard felt pain when Attacked by Pinhead. Channard was not weakened.
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Yes, they are. Voldemort routes the guy who does not even defend himself. Pinhead allows others to attack him all the time.
Big mistake.
Originally posted by quanchi112
I bring up another human beating them which you ignored and now I have not seen the film.
What other human? Tiffany? I told you of the circumstances, yet you continue to ignore them.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Cenobites showed simple cutting instruments killed them. So you ignore that and say cenobites, dude. You're a shit debater and an awful person. I cite evidence. Humans trick these dummies.
So Chanard's tentacles are simple cutting tools according to you. Claim not proven.
You then proceed to adhominem without addressing the 2nd point. Classic trolling fanboy tactic Quan, so that makes you, not me, the shit debater and awful person.
You keep saying you cite evidence (which you have not done so even once, you simply asserted), and yet every time, you ignore the actual context behind the scenes you are pitching. Why?
Originally posted by quanchi112
Prove that claim. Prove that leviathan allowed this and it was not Channard acting independently. You made a claim so prove it. My claim is the evidence and what was used. Channard slaughtered them and quite easily. We see other cenobites killed by the futuristic toy maker descendant.
The giant worm connected to Chanard's head is a direct conduit to Leviathan. The proof of this is when Chanard failed, Leviathan decapitated him with it. That is not to say Chanard was not acting independently, He was an anomaly who retained his human memories, breaking the Cenobites rules, however, Leviathan allowed this without Pinhead's knowledge, thus, when Chanard challenged the Cenobite's, they lost due to defying Leviathan's will without knowing it.
You said they were ordinary cutting instruments, which is utterly laughable. They were made from Chanard's tentacles. Hence Cenobite weapons were used on Cenobites.
As for the Toymaker's descendant, that too is a very unique situation, the Cenobites were destroyed by the perpetual light reconfiguration, not by the descendant directly. He didn't smack them in the face with a sword or spell. He destroyed them in the same way his ancestor brought them in, and destroyed the original puzzle box in the process.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Pinhead feels pain at full power as did Channard. Watch the films
Again, assuming that is human pain....
Originally posted by quanchi112
Pinhead felt pain in another film and Channard felt pain when Attacked by Pinhead. Channard was not weakened.
Pinhead was, AND Cenobite weapons. Ignore these facts if you must, but they are facts none the less. No mortal has ever harmed a Cenobite directly.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Yes, they are. Voldemort routes the guy who does not even defend himself. Pinhead allows others to attack him all the time.
If that is the case, then what makes you think Crucio would work, when no other mortal means have? I mean, if Pinhead allows people to attack him openly, and the only time it proved to work was at the hands of a more powerful Cenobite, then why would Crucio work when he has tanked so much worse before? Remember, these are your own words, your own claims, not mine.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Big mistake.
Nah, you just allowed your resolve to weaken and be altered by the noseless, soul depraved Voldemort. 😉
Originally posted by Darkstorm ZeroThey avoided channard's snakes and his head was ripped off. Ripping his head off can he done via a sword. Boom.
What other human? Tiffany? I told you of the circumstances, yet you continue to ignore them.So Chanard's tentacles are simple cutting tools according to you. Claim not proven.
You then proceed to adhominem without addressing the 2nd point. Classic trolling fanboy tactic Quan, so that makes you, not me, the shit debater and awful person.
You keep saying you cite evidence (which you have not done so even once, you simply asserted), and yet every time, you ignore the actual context behind the scenes you are pitching. Why?
The giant worm connected to Chanard's head is a direct conduit to Leviathan. The proof of this is when Chanard failed, Leviathan decapitated him with it. That is not to say Chanard was not acting independently, He was an anomaly who retained his human memories, breaking the Cenobites rules, however, Leviathan allowed this without Pinhead's knowledge, thus, when Chanard challenged the Cenobite's, they lost due to defying Leviathan's will without knowing it.
You said they were ordinary cutting instruments, which is utterly laughable. They were made from Chanard's tentacles. Hence Cenobite weapons were used on Cenobites.
As for the Toymaker's descendant, that too is a very unique situation, the Cenobites were destroyed by the perpetual light reconfiguration, not by the descendant directly. He didn't smack them in the face with a sword or spell. He destroyed them in the same way his ancestor brought them in, and destroyed the original puzzle box in the process.
Again, assuming that is human pain....
Pinhead was, AND Cenobite weapons. Ignore these facts if you must, but they are facts none the less. No mortal has ever harmed a Cenobite directly.
If that is the case, then what makes you think Crucio would work, when no other mortal means have? I mean, if Pinhead allows people to attack him openly, and the only time it proved to work was at the hands of a more powerful Cenobite, then why would Crucio work when he has tanked so much worse before? Remember, these are your own words, your own claims, not mine.
Nah, you just allowed your resolve to weaken and be altered by the noseless, soul depraved Voldemort. 😉
They have the same function as we have seen him hurt people and Cenobites to the same effect. You saying they are superior means you have to prove it as the evidence says otherwise.
I did not ignore the evidence of how the humans defeated the Cenobites. Of course they used the lament configuration which is what unleashes the cenobites in the first place.
He feels pain. Crucio has worked on spiders so acting like it only works on humans is ignorant. He feels pain. Period.
He was harmed by mortal means before. If you want to claim mortals can't harm him prove it. Conventional weapons aren't successful against him but that has nothing to do with Voldemort who is immortal.
Channard did not use something that reeks of torture. Crucio is designed to inflict unspeakable torture. Channard just slit his throat. That is a quick death.
Pinhead has felt pain. Spiders feel pain. Humans feel pain therefore Crucio wins.
Originally posted by quanchi112
They avoided channard's snakes and his head was ripped off. Ripping his head off can he done via a sword. Boom.
Incorrect, Chanard's head was removed by his maker, Leviathan. If you think a mortal weapon can do the same, you have to prove it, especially considering Pinhead's chains didn't even slow him down, and those things pull human bodies apart like wet tissue paper.
Originally posted by quanchi112
They have the same function as we have seen him hurt people and Cenobites to the same effect. You saying they are superior means you have to prove it as the evidence says otherwise.
The proof remains that they were the only weapons to prove effective against Pinhead's gash besides the cube. No other weapons ever worked on them. Not blades, not guns, just them.
Originally posted by quanchi112
I did not ignore the evidence of how the humans defeated the Cenobites. Of course they used the lament configuration which is what unleashes the cenobites in the first place.
Then why are you even attempting this lame assed argument with Crucio?
Originally posted by quanchi112
He feels pain. Crucio has worked on spiders so acting like it only works on humans is ignorant. He feels pain. Period.
*Sigh* you are now bringing up other peoples arguments instead of addressing what I said... Here, let me break it down for you.
There are numerous differences between Spiders, Humans, and Cenobites. #1: Spiders and humans are mortal creatures with limited lives and tollerances to pain.
Cenobites on the other hand are not mortal. They have been remade by Leviathan's power as demons of pain, suffering and sensation. As a rule of thumb, Cenobites revel in the sensation of pain. That's how their brain has been rewired, they love pain, they love to explore it, both among themselves, and to their victims. They grow stronger off of that sensation, hence why Pinhead got perpetually stronger as the movies progressed, eventually he became capable of altering reality.
Now, the question before us is, does Crucio work on Cenobites, and if so, what would be the result?
I believe Crucio would only infact make Pinhead stronger if anything. You can't incapacitate demons of pain, with pain.
Originally posted by quanchi112
He was harmed by mortal means before. If you want to claim mortals can't harm him prove it. Conventional weapons aren't successful against him but that has nothing to do with Voldemort who is immortal.
Proving negatives again? No. You must prove Pinhead can be harmed by mortal means, I don't have to prove he can't. And Voldemort isn't immortal, his soul is shattered, easy pickings to a reality warper.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Channard did not use something that reeks of torture. Crucio is designed to inflict unspeakable torture. Channard just slit his throat. That is a quick death.
Dude, the Cenobites define torture, unspeakable unimaginable torture. They are demons, and that is their job, and they love their job.
Chanard was chasing Tiffany, he had no time to prod Pinhead after humanising him. That said, that was not a quick death.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Pinhead has felt pain. Spiders feel pain. Humans feel pain therefore Crucio wins.
Doesn't matter if they feel it Quan, it matters how it affects them in this case, and you have failed to prove Crucio even slows a Cenobite down.
I agree with this guy!
Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero💃
Incorrect, Chanard's head was removed by his maker, Leviathan. If you think a mortal weapon can do the same, you have to prove it, especially considering Pinhead's chains didn't even slow him down, and those things pull human bodies apart like wet tissue paper.The proof remains that they were the only weapons to prove effective against Pinhead's gash besides the cube. No other weapons ever worked on them. Not blades, not guns, just them.
Then why are you even attempting this lame assed argument with Crucio?
*Sigh* you are now bringing up other peoples arguments instead of addressing what I said... Here, let me break it down for you.
There are numerous differences between Spiders, Humans, and Cenobites. #1: Spiders and humans are mortal creatures with limited lives and tollerances to pain.
Cenobites on the other hand are not mortal. They have been remade by Leviathan's power as demons of pain, suffering and sensation. As a rule of thumb, Cenobites revel in the sensation of pain. That's how their brain has been rewired, they love pain, they love to explore it, both among themselves, and to their victims. They grow stronger off of that sensation, hence why Pinhead got perpetually stronger as the movies progressed, eventually he became capable of altering reality.
Now, the question before us is, does Crucio work on Cenobites, and if so, what would be the result?
I believe Crucio would only infact make Pinhead stronger if anything. You can't incapacitate demons of pain, with pain.
Proving negatives again? No. You must prove Pinhead can be harmed by mortal means, I don't have to prove he can't. And Voldemort isn't immortal, his soul is shattered, easy pickings to a reality warper.
Dude, the Cenobites define torture, unspeakable unimaginable torture. They are demons, and that is their job, and they love their job.
Chanard was chasing Tiffany, he had no time to prod Pinhead after humanising him. That said, that was not a quick death.
Doesn't matter if they feel it Quan, it matters how it affects them in this case, and you have failed to prove Crucio even slows a Cenobite down.
Originally posted by Darkstorm ZeroYou are either intentionally lying or stupid. I will say both. Channard has his snakes trapped in the ground when he misses Tiffany and when he tries to move them out of the ground he decapitates himself. Pinhead's chains obviously hurt him but Pinhead sat back while Channard cut himself free. You claiming it did not effect him is inaccurate. The chains did not kill him but they obviously hurt him. We later see Channard's head decapped and quite easily by himself just because he could not free his own snakes from the ground. 😂
Incorrect, Chanard's head was removed by his maker, Leviathan. If you think a mortal weapon can do the same, you have to prove it, especially considering Pinhead's chains didn't even slow him down, and those things pull human bodies apart like wet tissue paper.The proof remains that they were the only weapons to prove effective against Pinhead's gash besides the cube. No other weapons ever worked on them. Not blades, not guns, just them.
Then why are you even attempting this lame assed argument with Crucio?
*Sigh* you are now bringing up other peoples arguments instead of addressing what I said... Here, let me break it down for you.
There are numerous differences between Spiders, Humans, and Cenobites. #1: Spiders and humans are mortal creatures with limited lives and tollerances to pain.
Cenobites on the other hand are not mortal. They have been remade by Leviathan's power as demons of pain, suffering and sensation. As a rule of thumb, Cenobites revel in the sensation of pain. That's how their brain has been rewired, they love pain, they love to explore it, both among themselves, and to their victims. They grow stronger off of that sensation, hence why Pinhead got perpetually stronger as the movies progressed, eventually he became capable of altering reality.
Now, the question before us is, does Crucio work on Cenobites, and if so, what would be the result?
I believe Crucio would only infact make Pinhead stronger if anything. You can't incapacitate demons of pain, with pain.
Proving negatives again? No. You must prove Pinhead can be harmed by mortal means, I don't have to prove he can't. And Voldemort isn't immortal, his soul is shattered, easy pickings to a reality warper.
Dude, the Cenobites define torture, unspeakable unimaginable torture. They are demons, and that is their job, and they love their job.
Chanard was chasing Tiffany, he had no time to prod Pinhead after humanising him. That said, that was not a quick death.
Doesn't matter if they feel it Quan, it matters how it affects them in this case, and you have failed to prove Crucio even slows a Cenobite down.
The weapons were effective against the other Cenobites. We also see the weapons were successful against Pinhead after he was made mortal. When did Pinhead made mortal resist mortal weapons ? 😂
Crucio makes those feel pain and since I proved Cenobites still feel pain I backed my claim.
Cenobites are mortals as well that become demons aka immortal. Voldemort became immortal through his own means. Cenobites, humans, and spiders feel pain.
Cenobites have still felt pain caused by other sources than Leviathan and not found it enjoyable. We see Cenobites butcher each other as well. You spouting off hyperbole is not really debating. I have given instances of my points while you rant about hyperbole.
Pinhead was bound in the films by the box. The only time he was at an all time high in power was in part three when he was unbound and separates by his human side.
Yes, you can as we clearly see them experience pain and die. At no points does anyone outside transformation process are they empowered by torture.
Voldemort is an immortal as well. We see humans cause him pain by the elysium configuration so that is a mortal weapon. A mortal created it. 😂
Dude, the Cenobites hurt each other they do not revel in it. Watch the films. Channard does not like Pinhead attacking him with chains.
Cutting a throat is pretty quick. The other cenboites were killed by single attacks.
You keep saying cenobites love pain but I have given examples of pain afflicting them. Point proven not your ridiculous hyperbole.
Originally posted by quanchi112:
You are either intentionally lying or stupid. I will say both. Channard has his snakes trapped in the ground when he misses Tiffany and when he tries to move them out of the ground he decapitates himself. Pinhead's chains obviously hurt him but Pinhead sat back while Channard cut himself free. You claiming it did not effect him is inaccurate. The chains did not kill him but they obviously hurt him. We later see Channard's head decapped and quite easily by himself just because he could not free his own snakes from the ground. :lol
Says the guy misinterpreting scenes to suit his own agenda.
Right, so now Chanard decapitates himself, even though it was the Leviathan Worm that was doing the pulling. Hilarious. 😆
Originally posted by quanchi112
The weapons were effective against the other Cenobites. We also see the weapons were successful against Pinhead after he was made mortal. When did Pinhead made mortal resist mortal weapons ? 😂
So, you obviously don't understand English... I specifically said the entire gash, not just Pinhead. Way to leave out something so crucial to my statement.
Did I say he resited weapons when mortal? Again, you fail to read.
I remember when the drill twins fired their guns on Pinhead and the new Cenobites, not to mention the commando raids on the space station, bullets do not work.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Crucio makes those feel pain and since I proved Cenobites still feel pain I backed my claim.
Not once did I say that Cenobites don't feel pain. Re-read my arguments, and realise that I said pain doesn't slow them down or stop them like it would a human. So, while you claim that Crucio makes them feel pain, it won't win Vold the match. So your point is utterly moot.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Cenobites are mortals as well that become demons aka immortal. Voldemort became immortal through his own means. Cenobites, humans, and spiders feel pain.
They are mortals no longer. That's the point. Voldemort is not immortal, his soul is still mortal, and he shattered it into 7 fragments. Without the Philosophers stone, true immortality is lost to Voldemort.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Cenobites have still felt pain caused by other sources than Leviathan and not found it enjoyable. We see Cenobites butcher each other as well. You spouting off hyperbole is not really debating. I have given instances of my points while you rant about hyperbole.
No, they have not. Chanard, Pinhead, and the original gash of Cenobites were all felled by Cenobite Weapons, in the labyrinth of Leviathan.
You don't even know the definition of Hyperbole, and you attempting to mangle that word is laughably ironic. 😆
Originally posted by quanchi112
Pinhead was bound in the films by the box. The only time he was at an all time high in power was in part three when he was unbound and separates by his human side.
Which he remains so until the end of the series.
He remains loyal to Leviathan because of his nature, and the control worm parasites in his brain.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Yes, you can as we clearly see them experience pain and die. At no points does anyone outside transformation process are they empowered by torture.
That is a claim you have not backed beyond "chains in Chanard fight" which are Cenobite Weapons! Clearly you can't think beyond that. Those Cenobites were humanised by Tiffany and Kristy, deny facts again, as I know you will.
Oh, and I suppose the pain stops somehow... Those pins, hooks, slashed open flesh, organs and general mutilation no longer feel pain in your world. Then why the f**k are they still bearing them?! Use your F**king brain.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Voldemort is an immortal as well. We see humans cause him pain by the elysium configuration so that is a mortal weapon. A mortal created it. 😂
Wrong.
The Elysium Configuration is not a mortal weapon, by it's very definition of being linked to Leviathan's own lament configuration. The descendant based it on the principals of the Lament. Also, it took years of development. Please tell me how the Death Eaters and Vold can replicate this?
Originally posted by quanchi112
Dude, the Cenobites hurt each other they do not revel in it. Watch the films. Channard does not like Pinhead attacking him with chains.
Because they are Cenobite Weapons. I asked you to name me one mortal weapon that did the same. You can't. (your flimsy excuse of naming the Elysion Configuration Station not withstanding)
Originally posted by quanchi112
Cutting a throat is pretty quick. The other cenboites were killed by single attacks.
Yeah, and spent 30 seconds trying to breathe through the new hole in his hroat... Slow.
Yes? And?
Originally posted by quanchi112
You keep saying cenobites love pain but I have given examples of pain afflicting them. Point proven not your ridiculous hyperbole.
You are using once Cenobite against another. Not once did you reference anything a mortal could replicate, anywhere in your verbal diarrhea stain of a post.
Originally posted by Darkstorm ZeroWhat you say rarely ever makes any sense.
:Says the guy misinterpreting scenes to suit his own agenda.
Right, so now Chanard decapitates himself, even though it was the Leviathan Worm that was doing the pulling. Hilarious. 😆
So, you obviously don't understand English... I specifically said the entire gash, not just Pinhead. Way to leave out something so crucial to my statement.
Did I say he resited weapons when mortal? Again, you fail to read.
I remember when the drill twins fired their guns on Pinhead and the new Cenobites, not to mention the commando raids on the space station, bullets do not work.
Not once did I say that Cenobites don't feel pain. Re-read my arguments, and realise that I said pain doesn't slow them down or stop them like it would a human. So, while you claim that Crucio makes them feel pain, it won't win Vold the match. So your point is utterly moot.
They are mortals no longer. That's the point. Voldemort is not immortal, his soul is still mortal, and he shattered it into 7 fragments. Without the Philosophers stone, true immortality is lost to Voldemort.
No, they have not. Chanard, Pinhead, and the original gash of Cenobites were all felled by Cenobite Weapons, in the labyrinth of Leviathan.
You don't even know the definition of Hyperbole, and you attempting to mangle that word is laughably ironic. 😆
Which he remains so until the end of the series.
He remains loyal to Leviathan because of his nature, and the control worm parasites in his brain.
That is a claim you have not backed beyond "chains in Chanard fight" which are Cenobite Weapons! Clearly you can't think beyond that. Those Cenobites were humanised by Tiffany and Kristy, deny facts again, as I know you will.
Oh, and I suppose the pain stops somehow... Those pins, hooks, slashed open flesh, organs and general mutilation no longer feel pain in your world. Then why the f**k are they still bearing them?! Use your F**king brain.
Wrong.
The Elysium Configuration is not a mortal weapon, by it's very definition of being linked to Leviathan's own lament configuration. The descendant based it on the principals of the Lament. Also, it took years of development. Please tell me how the Death Eaters and Vold can replicate this?
Because they are Cenobite Weapons. I asked you to name me one mortal weapon that did the same. You can't. (your flimsy excuse of naming the Elysion Configuration Station not withstanding)
Yeah, and spent 30 seconds trying to breathe through the new hole in his hroat... Slow.
Yes? And?
You are using once Cenobite against another. Not once did you reference anything a mortal could replicate, anywhere in your verbal diarrhea stain of a post.
Channard could not get his snakes weapons from out of the ground and died because of it. That is exactly what happened not this ridiculous notion that Leviathan beheading a cenobite. That has never occurred before. Quit just making things up.
The weapons hurt the human body the same as it did their demonic bodies. It cut a human throat. The same as any razor would do. Just because a demon wields it does not mean uber powerful just because. You need evidence not the same silly hyperbolic statements. Debate, kiddo.
No one wields bullets here. Pinhead also caught a bullet in his mouth. Regular weapons have hurt Cenobites before as I have already proven. 🙂
Based on what ? This spell is designed to leave the victim helpless to it. Humans can feel people as well and fight on. Crucio is another matter altogether. The same bogus logic of Cenobites fighting on with pain also applies to humans. The thing is Crucio is a spell specially designed for unimaginable pain which leaves the victim helpless. Not the same thing as a paper cut.
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Pinhead died as well so he lost his immortality as well. Channard also took it requiring a rebirth. Both needed outside means to become immortal. You're trying to use a double standard here. You're a hypocrite. Both achieved means without outside intervention to live forever. 🙂
The weapons were wielded by Cenobites but simple cutting mechanisms used on humans aka Elliot Spencer aka Pinhead. We see it cut his throat like any common razor. 😂
He is a puppet to Leviathan until his bitter end. A true slave. I agree he's a *****.
The Cenobites did not lose their powers save Pinhead. We see the same cenobites weapons have the same effect a razor would on a throat. But since I wanted to trap you into ranting I will show a human killing a Cenobites without any supernatural powers whatsoever.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5yOxIdoQNIs
^^3:11 in, kiddo. Game, set, match. You have always been a massive fool. If they still felt pain from them they would show it. The see them experience pain when something else hits their body as in Pinhead's chains hitting Channard's body. You said Pinhead was weakened as well yet he still caused Channard great pain. 😂
It is a mortal weapon just as is the lament configuration. We see the toy maker create it along with the occultists use to to create a doorway to hell. Mortals created it. Mortals use Magic in Potter and can make themselves immortal by way of magic.
Voldemort does not need to use the box which has to be used to send Pinhead in anyways (hahahahah) but he simply uses Crucio. 😂
I gave you a link.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5yOxIdoQNIs
Here it is again. The lament configuration is a mortal weapon as is the elysium configuration. All created by mortals.
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30 seconds is not a long time to torture someone. Hours is or days. 30 seconds is a walk in the park compared to hours of torture or even minutes.
I played you. 🙂