Well, the general reason for it is that Loki is more or less "fated" to be who he is. Odin recognizes that and also recognizes Loki's role in the universe as it pertains to the Asgardians. Conversely, like in the "Loki" mini, Loki feels that Odin set him along the path of evil to further make Thor shine brighter by comparison. Loki's fairly important in the grand scheme of things as far as Ragnarok is concerned.
Originally posted by janus77
So why doesn't Odin deal with him properly? Surely a good parent would know when to abort such a failed venture. Think how many innocents have died as a result of Loki's machinations.Odin just has to clip him round the ear and all would be set aright ✅
Exactly how should Odin deal with him? Execute him? That can't happen. It's not their way weirdly enough and Odin understands the necessity of balance.
Odin loves Loki and has done his best to raise him, has given him every opportunity but it just doesn't work. The bastard is to evil and has trapped himself inside this circle of death. He's imprisoned him and made him pay for his terrible crimes with everything but his life.
Originally posted by janus77
Also, Zeus comes from a troubled-home, he should be given some props for managing to not strangle Hercules at birth! c'mon, the guy's father castrated his grandfather, that shit's not right is it?I think you're all far too judgemental about Zeus, he needs our understanding and respect for what he has achieved, in the way of parenthood.
What has Zeus achieved as a parent? His only good deed as far as I can remember was making Hercules a full on immortal.
Speaking about troubled sons, how about Ares? Zeus sure showed some excellent parenting skills there.
How about Zeus' work with Ares? The Olympian is simply a poor father.
Ares is a fine upstanding soldier, what's your problem with him?
Loki is a menace to humanity and only became so as a result of Odin's actions in raising him.
Odin seems to view Loki in a sort of utilitarian fashion, something I think Loki long ago picked up on.
Zeus gave Hercules room to grow and make mistakes, Odin just bosses Thor about and demands constant expressions of loyalty and fealty.
Also, Zeus has the better beard! (I win!)
Originally posted by janus77
Ares is a fine upstanding soldier, what's your problem with him?
Lol? Ares is a homicidal maniac. F*cker enjoys death more than Loki does. His body count is in the billions. We literally got an estimate that was over 6 billion.
We're debating parenting skills and Zeus method for handling Ares? Ignore him. Lawlz.
Originally posted by janus77
Loki is a menace to humanity and only became so as a result of Odin's actions in raising him.
What? You don't know what you're talking about. Odin tried his best to raise Loki, he loved the little bastard, but Loki is Loki. It's in his nature to be mischievous and eventually evil.
Originally posted by janus77
Odin seems to view Loki in a sort of utilitarian fashion, something I think Loki long ago picked up on.
Elaborate.
Originally posted by janus77
Zeus gave Hercules room to grow and make mistakes, Odin just bosses Thor about and demands constant expressions of loyalty and fealty.Also, Zeus has the better beard! (I win!)
Lol? You don't know what you're talking about.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Odin's the better pop. He knew to protect Thor from the all powerful silver surfer. Someone like Zeus would have just let Thor stand on his own two feet.
Ok, who imparted the more wisdom to their off-springs?
who has done the more to build good character in them?
who has taught their male off-spring how to properly grow a man's beard?
important questions to consider!
Originally posted by janus77Odin, Odin, and Zeus.
yes because Thor isn't Zeus' son and because Zeus would probably see a good ass-kicking as educative for Thor (or even Hercules).Ok, who imparted the more wisdom to their off-springs?
who has done the more to build good character in them?who has taught their male off-spring how to properly grow a man's beard?
important questions to consider!
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
How about Zeus' work with Ares? The Olympian is simply a poor father.
And the Ares Mini-series supports Rage's argument about Zeus not being a Good Parent.The fact Ares won a battle for the Olympians against Hades and Zeus instead listened to what the people of Olympus are saying about Ares.So what did Ares do?Leave Olympus to start a new life on Earth.And when trouble arrives on Olympus, Zeus ordered that Alexander be kidnapped so Ares would come to Olympus's aid against Amatsu-Mikaboshi.Odin win this.
Originally posted by illadelph12
Didn't Zeus turn himself into a swan in order to impregnate a woman? How is that setting a good example for Hercules?What part of the game is that?
Zeus is the most prolific rapist in history -- he's turned into a swan, a bull, a golden mist, and many other things, all in the name of rape.
That said, it could be argued he's the better parent, at least from mythology. He tends to look out for his little bastards, whereas Odin has deliberately humiliated Thor just to dick around with him. Comics Odin is less full of mischief, though, and there is actually some purpose to his dicking around with Thor.
Originally posted by Uriel005
Zeus ate Athena.... that's pretty damn bad. Also chucking Hephaestus out of olympus for having a club foot. Odin at least generally has a reason for the crap he heaps on Thor. Zeus just does it cause hes an irresponsible prick a lot of the time with a bad temper
Kids crave discipline. Seriously, though, Zeus had been wronged by Hera, and Hephaestus took the wrong side of the argument. Bad temper was involved, but it wasn't a purely dick move.