Originally posted by the ninjakIve usually thought Jason would win classic versions but after arguing it im now siding with Michael.
Michael wins through decap. Jason's worm demon escapes into the lake looking for another body. Fight starts again a year later.And I've gotta research this Thorn summoning thing again. I remember him appearing on a speeding car. Could be childhood memories but I swear that happened.
Originally posted by thanos-primeFreddy used his claws and the machete which impaled jason along with metal things to ram it in further.
Yes Freddy was Using blunt force means to beat Jason through out the entire dream sequence which won't work ofc, Michael will chop his shit off like Freddy should have done.He can trade blows with Jason but when he does he will dodge attacks Jason won't and will get chopped up, hell Freddy was chopping Jason up.
Michael's damage soak is just as good when it comes to conventional means of attack like stabbing and shooting, but like i said even with his damage soak being just as good he will still dodge Jason won't.
No Jason can NOT afford to take hit's from Michael he may not be as strong as Jason but he is damn close but he is stronger than a normal human he can chop off limbs easily which would happen if Jason fight's in character which he would.
Freddy did cut his fingers off in the real world but it isn't that simple.
Michael's damage soak is nowhere near as good as Jason's. Michael goes into comas and has people take care of him and provide medical care.
Freddy was a lot quicker than Michael so Michael won't be moving anywhere near as quick or have the luxury of attacking him in the dream world or having all that crystal lake pipes at his disposal along with the torpedoes Freddy was launching at him.
Michael rarely ever chops limbs off he usually stabs repeatedly and Jason's limbs are far more durable than Michael's victims.
Originally posted by quanchi112Yes but that was pointless getting stabbed won't do anything but getting his limbs chopped off will.
Freddy used his claws and the machete which impaled jason along with metal things to ram it in further.Freddy did cut his fingers off in the real world but it isn't that simple.
Michael's damage soak is nowhere near as good as Jason's. Michael goes into comas and has people take care of him and provide medical care.
Freddy was a lot quicker than Michael so Michael won't be moving anywhere near as quick or have the luxury of attacking him in the dream world or having all that crystal lake pipes at his disposal along with the torpedoes Freddy was launching at him.
Michael rarely ever chops limbs off he usually stabs repeatedly and Jason's limbs are far more durable than Michael's victims.
Michael's damage soak is every bit as good where it count's in this fight he is easily just as unaffected by stabs and gun shots.
Freddy is much quicker than Michael i agree but i was talking in a dodging sense as that's where i believe his agility will come into play in this fight.
I know Michael stabs more than chops but that's why i brought up intelligence as Michael will stab at first but he will quickly go for chopping.afterward.
What leads you to believe his limbs are more durable? Of all of his movie's i have never seen anyone have trouble with his piercing durability and it wouldn't matter as Michael is still stronger than anyone Jason has faced.
Originally posted by thanos-primeSince when does Myers go around chopping limbs off.
Yes but that was pointless getting stabbed won't do anything but getting his limbs chopped off will.Michael's damage soak is every bit as good where it count's in this fight he is easily just as unaffected by stabs and gun shots.
Freddy is much quicker than Michael i agree but i was talking in a dodging sense as that's where i believe his agility will come into play in this fight.
I know Michael stabs more than chops but that's why i brought up intelligence as Michael will stab at first but he will quickly go for chopping.afterward.
What leads you to believe his limbs are more durable? Of all of his movie's i have never seen anyone have trouble with his piercing durability and it wouldn't matter as Michael is still stronger than anyone Jason has faced.
It might to a certain degree but Jason will have ahold of him and won't eat up the damage he ate up before finally getting his confrontation with freddy.
I don't think it's easy to chop off limbs Freddy just saw the chance to when he was on the ground I don't see Freddy being able to while facing off against Jason while standing nor do I see Michael.
Any other person's body would be torn to shreds by the punishment Jason endured in freddy vs. jason or the rounds he took in jason goes to hell. They even mention in that movie despite his power all bodies save his own are crap compared to Jason's original body.
Originally posted by quanchi112As i said that's where his intelligence comes into play he will figure out before long that simple stabs won't work.
Since when does Myers go around chopping limbs off.It might to a certain degree but Jason will have ahold of him and won't eat up the damage he ate up before finally getting his confrontation with freddy.
I don't think it's easy to chop off limbs Freddy just saw the chance to when he was on the ground I don't see Freddy being able to while facing off against Jason while standing nor do I see Michael.
Any other person's body would be torn to shreds by the punishment Jason endured in freddy vs. jason or the rounds he took in jason goes to hell. They even mention in that movie despite his power all bodies save his own are crap compared to Jason's original body.
Grabbing Michael won't help him there so close strength wise neither would benefit.
Michael chopped off some girls head like it was nothing i don't think he will have trouble chopping off Jason's limbs, besides isn't Jason a zombie should his limbs logically be weaker than a normal humans?
I would have to say the punishment Michael took at the end of halloween 4 was worse those shotguns would have torn a normal person's body apart and at that range?
Is Jason vs Freddy even cannon?
Originally posted by thanos-primeEven if he wants to chop limbs off it won't be something he can easily if at all achieve.
As i said that's where his intelligence comes into play he will figure out before long that simple stabs won't work.Grabbing Michael won't help him there so close strength wise neither would benefit.
Michael chopped off some girls head like it was nothing i don't think he will have trouble chopping off Jason's limbs, besides isn't Jason a zombie should his limbs logically be weaker than a normal humans?
I would have to say the punishment Michael took at the end of halloween 4 was worse those shotguns would have torn a normal person's body apart and at that range?
Is Jason vs Freddy even cannon?
I think Jason definitely has a considerable strength advantage. He's punched heads off, tossed freddy like 30 some feet or higher with one arm. The guy hit that destiny's child singer in freddy vs. jason and sent her flying back with a machete.
Jason's body parts are a lot stronger since if you take a normal human and subject it to the punishment jason received in freddy vs. jason and it would be completely destroyed in any number of scenes by themselves let alone the entire movie.
Michael was pretty far away and needed to recover from this punishment for at least a year.
Yes, it happened after freddy's dead and jason goes to hell.
Originally posted by quanchi112I don't see it as being something he couldn't accomplish Jason can be as strong as he wants his limbs are still made of flesh and bone.
Even if he wants to chop limbs off it won't be something he can easily if at all achieve.I think Jason definitely has a considerable strength advantage. He's punched heads off, tossed freddy like 30 some feet or higher with one arm. The guy hit that destiny's child singer in freddy vs. jason and sent her flying back with a machete.
Jason's body parts are a lot stronger since if you take a normal human and subject it to the punishment jason received in freddy vs. jason and it would be completely destroyed in any number of scenes by themselves let alone the entire movie.
Michael was pretty far away and needed to recover from this punishment for at least a year.
Yes, it happened after freddy's dead and jason goes to hell.
im not saying Jason isn't stronger he is but "A considerable strength advantage" i think not not enough to make a difference imo.
Yes Jason's body is alot stronger than a normal humans but considering Michael's body is burned to a crisp already i would say those shotgun blast's caused considerable more damage than normal.
Michael didn't need to long to recover he was still in good enough shape to kill that old man he only waited because it wasn't halloween any longer.
Originally posted by thanos-primeMore durable flesh and bone with a much stronger person opposing you. I mean busta rhymes characters has tossed myers around before.
I don't see it as being something he couldn't accomplish Jason can be as strong as he wants his limbs are still made of flesh and bone.im not saying Jason isn't stronger he is but "A considerable strength advantage" i think not not enough to make a difference imo.
Yes Jason's body is alot stronger than a normal humans but considering Michael's body is burned to a crisp already i would say those shotgun blast's caused considerable more damage than normal.
Michael didn't need to long to recover he was still in good enough shape to kill that old man he only waited because it wasn't halloween any longer.
I think so based off of his feats and how insanely strong they have made him. You could tell they didn't want Michael to be that off the chain supernatural.
Jason's been burned as well, blown up in new blood, but unlike Michael he didn't need a coma he kept pursuing his victim. Jason's like Michael on steroids.
Michael passed out and waited until he recuperated. I am sure he could have snuck attack killed that guy prior to but his full strength needed time and healing to recover.
Michael can't seem to die right? How can you kill someone who is unkillable? I hated the remakes of Halloween (no offense to Rob Zombie), but the originals are better, but Michael seems to have stronger upper body strength. With a single stab he was able to lift one of his victims in the air. Anyone can swing a machette and with the proper technique, it can cut heads of cleanly. Take a look at Africa and the ethnic cleansing. Also, isn't Mike full of untamed pure rage?
Both men's theme song: http://youtu.be/Wws7mnMewPw
Originally posted by Impediment
Is Jason Voorhees alive (before Friday 13th pt. 6) or is he Zombie Jason (part 6 and on)?Is this Michael from Halloween 1? I ask because Michael from Halloween 4 and on had MEGA damage soak.
I was honestly just about to post this question
If it is post electrocution Jason though, he'll probably stomp any version of Michael
Originally posted by ImpedimentBoth at their fakes so Jason sans Freddy vs. Jason and Michael towards the end of his run as well so he has all the crazy damage soak from part 4 and 6.
Is Jason Voorhees alive (before Friday 13th pt. 6) or is he Zombie Jason (part 6 and on)?Is this Michael from Halloween 1? I ask because Michael from Halloween 4 and on had MEGA damage soak.
Originally posted by Darth TruculentJason is clearly stronger and Michael can die he just hasn't been killed yet. Cutting his head off would do the trick since they retconned laurie strode's head decap scene from h20.
Michael can't seem to die right? How can you kill someone who is unkillable? I hated the remakes of Halloween (no offense to Rob Zombie), but the originals are better, but Michael seems to have stronger upper body strength. With a single stab he was able to lift one of his victims in the air. Anyone can swing a machette and with the proper technique, it can cut heads of cleanly. Take a look at Africa and the ethnic cleansing. Also, isn't Mike full of untamed pure rage?Both men's theme song: http://youtu.be/Wws7mnMewPw
You know, I don't recall Michael being all that..."fast". Michael stands, takes hits, gets knocked down, then gets up and usually just slowly walks to his victims.
I think Jason actually runs at times and as seen in Freddy vs. Jason, he would definitely fight.
But I think I'll go with Jason. He's stronger (though Michael really isn't that far behind), and he's got a deadlier weapon.