Darth Krayt vs. Darth Maul and Savage Opress

Started by Black bolt z4 pages

In saber to saber combat team 2.

No restrictions goes to krayt.

Originally posted by Lord Lucien
AotC Kenobi absorbed Dooku's Lightning with ease. Savage definitely had the power too. I guess it was just more convenient that he was stupid.

Of course he has the "power" to do so, just not the 'knowledge' to apply said power.

Originally posted by ares834
"Malgus interposed his lightsaber, drew the lightning to it, and started walking toward Adraas. The power swirled around the red blade, sizzling, crackling, pushed against Malgus, but he strode through it. The skin of his hands blistered but Malgus endured the pain, paid it as the price of his cause." pg 246.

This also happens in the new Old Republic comic. The protagonist isn't strong enough to arc the lightning of the Emperors apprentice into his lightsaber blade so instead it completely destroys the lightsaber hilt and fvcks up his arms.

I'd say Lightsabers, there's a mixed result, it depends on how well the two can work together since neither can stand up to him alone, and also pre-rebirth he has the Vong armor (so sabers only is the only situation where pre-rez is stronger).

Originally posted by Jinsoku Takai
As mentioned by ares, there are numerous sources stating that this is the case, thereby making it canon, seeing as how it does not contradict any GL material.
...And there are also sources that don't mention it. Just saying.

Originally posted by Galan007
...And there are also sources that don't mention it. Just saying.

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There is no contradiction. If it were simply a matter of bringing one's lightsaber up in the direction of the lightning and holding still, Dooku should have blown Obi-Wan's weapon right out of his hand, given that it was sufficient enough to hurl a grown man off his feet and across the hangar. There's clearly a channeling of energy on part of the Force user redirecting the lightning.

Originally posted by RagingBoner
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There is no contradiction.
I'm not saying there's a contradiction. I'm just saying that it doesn't seem like some sources intended to have the lightning being manipulated into the saber before it could be effectively blocked.

Personally, I don't think AotC Obi-Wan was powerful enough with the force to manipulate Dooku's lightning in any way/shape/form... But that's just my opinion.

Originally posted by RagingBoner
given that it was sufficient enough to hurl a grown man off his feet and across the hangar.
In the novelization, I believe it was stated that Dooku used lightning in conjunction with force grab/push, to hurl Anakin across the room.

Indeed, no matter how powerful the lightning it doesn't hurl a man sideways. 😬

Originally posted by Galan007

Personally, I don't think AotC Obi-Wan was powerful enough with the force to manipulate Dooku's lightning in any way/shape/form... But that's just my opinion.

Bringing it to the saber is a relatively minor course correction. I can buy it.

Remember that Dooku was toying with him. He could have easily killed him but he didn't. I doubt he was going all out even slightly.

Originally posted by Q99
Bringing it to the saber is a relatively minor course correction. I can buy it.
You are more then welcome to that opinion. Personally, I have doubts that GL's intention was to have Kenobi manipulate Dooku's lightning before he could effectively block it with his lightsaber. After all, the lightning Dooku used in that particular instance was very concentrated/bolt-like... It didn't have any arcs of energy spewing from it that needed to be 'drawn in'.

To me, it seemed like the intention was to have Kenobi block it just as he would a blaster bolt. /shrug

Well maybe in that specific case it wasn't necessary, but against wider lightning it is.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
In saber to saber combat team 2.

No restrictions goes to krayt.

Annoying FANBOY 🤨 👇

Originally posted by Q99
Well maybe in that specific case it wasn't necessary, but against wider lightning it is.
I can agree with that.

krayt wins cuz he took on like 19 jedi in the x wing comics

Originally posted by Galan007
You are more then welcome to that opinion. Personally, I have doubts that GL's intention was to have Kenobi manipulate Dooku's lightning before he could effectively block it with his lightsaber. After all, the lightning Dooku used in that particular instance was very concentrated/bolt-like... It didn't have any arcs of energy spewing from it that needed to be 'drawn in'.

To me, it seemed like the intention was to have Kenobi block it just as he would a blaster bolt. /shrug

Opinions carry little weight when discussing matters of canon. You've been here a long time G007; you should know this.

Its not just Savage Opress who could not block Dooku's FL. Ventress + 2 nightsisters together could not defend against it either. And of course Ventress was wayyy more powerful than AOTC Obi-Wan.

Dooku obviously didn't go all out with the Force against AOTC Obi-Wan. He could have taken him out very easily ROTS style if he did. (Although theres also the possibility that Dooku's power in the Dark Side was still increasing during the clone wars).

Dooku wasn't trying to kill or even overly hurt him. Rememer he just nicked him twice. He could have killed Kenobi right then and there but didn't, instead going for the huge-ass windup with Anakin very obviously going to leap in the way. If you look at his blow he's just going to kind of chop into him, its bizarre. He was also only using one hand with the lightning. He wasn't even trying to overpower him.

I think he might've viewed them as warm-ups before the real Yoda fight, and wanted to save himself for that.

Originally posted by Q99
I think he might've viewed them as warm-ups before the real Yoda fight, and wanted to save himself for that.

Except he had no idea Yoda was coming to battle him.