Warrior Madness Thor VS Sentry/Void

Started by Damborgson8 pages

Originally posted by quanchi112
We see on the next panel the Sentry/Void is fine since the Void was working through the sentry for some time yet and was going back and forth as both.

No, Thor only did so because the writer even explained the Void only goes away when he wants to so if he didn't want to Thor couldn't have stopped him.

We see the Void screaming kill me, so whether it was just a part of bob or not it wasn't 100 percent the Void anymore ever since we saw Bob.

No, Thor can't ever kill him unless he's suicidal with Bob in there as explained by the writer himself.

It's funny how Thor backers all claim Thor was weakened while conveniently forgetting Void was attacked by a helicarrier, the avengers, norn stones amped avengers, and the fact he brought down asgard himself while easily restraining Thor.

If the Void doesn't have to worry about an entire team he can easily kill Thor since that's just one guy he has to focus on.

I win/Void wins.

No we dont.His wife got in the entire story of sentry being a drug addict before the void takes over again and brings bob back. Yeah he was going back and forth as both but it was the sentry who was in control at the time. 😬 I thought that would be obvious...

NO your wrong. This is what Bendis said. "Number two, yes, Bob realized that things had gone as far as they could possibly go. There was no other end for him and without his cooperation he doesn't go away." That just means that the void would havereturned had Bob not stopped it. Doesnt mean Thor end kill him. Just means he would have come back. Same with MM. He did it 3 times. Void just brought them back. Thor had the power to do so, so he did.

Read this. :http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/663/proofer.jpg The void seized control again. That "kill me" were Bob's last words.

Yes Thor can. And he did. Bob was gone at the end except for his final words. Thor took the void down.

its funny how you seem to forget that the void healed anything that was thrown at him. Only Thor even slowed him down in that fight and allowed for the hellicarrier attack to be done by pinning him with lightning. http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_njhrb1fZtrI/SxGFyMVB-_I/AAAAAAAAAEM/UziY6dS6ygc/s1600/20070902-Facepalm1.jpg Quanchi...I already explained how weakened Thor was...that statement was a fail...

even more of a fail...the avengers were almost all entirely non factors. After the norn amp was gone they were once again totally useless and Thor did the heavy lifting from there on out.

Void failed/Quanchi failed. Thor won/i won two posts ago. 😉

Originally posted by Damborgson
No we dont.His wife got in the entire story of sentry being a drug addict before the void takes over again and brings bob back. Yeah he was going back and forth as both but it was the sentry who was in control at the time. 😬 I thought that would be obvious...

NO your wrong. This is what Bendis said. "Number two, yes, Bob realized that things had gone as far as they could possibly go. There was no other end for him and without his cooperation he doesn't go away." That just means that the void would havereturned had Bob not stopped it. Doesnt mean Thor end kill him. Just means he would have come back. Same with MM. He did it 3 times. Void just brought them back. Thor had the power to do so, so he did.

Read this. :http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/663/proofer.jpg The void seized control again. That "kill me" were Bob's last words.

Yes Thor can. And he did. Bob was gone at the end except for his final words. Thor took the void down.

its funny how you seem to forget that the void healed anything that was thrown at him. Only Thor even slowed him down in that fight and allowed for the hellicarrier attack to be done by pinning him with lightning. http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_njhrb1fZtrI/SxGFyMVB-_I/AAAAAAAAAEM/UziY6dS6ygc/s1600/20070902-Facepalm1.jpg Quanchi...I already explained how weakened Thor was...that statement was a fail...

even more of a fail...the avengers were almost all entirely non factors. After the norn amp was gone they were once again totally useless and Thor did the heavy lifting from there on out.

Void failed/Quanchi failed. Thor won/i won two posts ago. 😉

There is no end/aka death for him without his cooperation. Thanks for destroying your own argument and proving me the victor.

So if the Void can heal any damage he can heal from Thor's attacks as well but since he didn't only proves he didn't want to.

Yeah, the fact there was a team, loki, and thor had multiple chances with Bob egging him on means nothing because Thor totally killed him, right ?

This is just a terrible argument.

Originally posted by quanchi112
There is no end/aka death for him without his cooperation. Thanks for destroying your own argument and proving me the victor.

So if the Void can heal any damage he can heal from Thor's attacks as well but since he didn't only proves he didn't want to.

Yeah, the fact there was a team, loki, and thor had multiple chances with Bob egging him on means nothing because Thor totally killed him, right ?

This is just a terrible argument.


Oh please. Your misinterpretation of things has been baffling in this argument. Let me lay it out one more time. 1. Bob wants to be killed 2. thor says no 3. void takes over 4. Thor ends him. 5. Bob stops void from returning. This is what Bendis is saying. Not the fail misinterpretation's that you have spouted for 3 pages.

Loki wanted to die from the beginning, and the team was mostly street levelers. They were almost all non factors. Their presence was for show. Thor kills him, Bob stops him from returning. its as simple as that.

By your side maybe.

We can keep this going if u want but not today. I need to finish studying for my final. ill be back tomorrow.

Originally posted by Damborgson
Oh please. Your misinterpretation of things has been baffling in this argument. Let me lay it out one more time. 1. Bob wants to be killed 2. thor says no 3. void takes over 4. Thor ends him. 5. Bob stops void from returning. This is what Bendis is saying. Not the fail misinterpretation's that you have spouted for 3 pages.

Loki wanted to die from the beginning, and the team was mostly street levelers. They were almost all non factors. Their presence was for show. Thor kills him, Bob stops him from returning. its as simple as that.

By your side maybe.

Without his cooperation he doesn't go away so this means if he doesn't cooperate he doesn't go away. Without Bob showing up the Void would never have been defeated. This has always been consistent with the Void the only character capable of beating him is himself so Thor can't on his own. Your interview confirms it.

Loki still aided the team so whether he wanted to die is irrelevant since his actions gave new life to the team.

It's also hypocritical of you to say Loki wanted to die but then ignore Bob asking/wanting his own death.

void rape stomps thor

So people actually think Thor killed Void without Bob's help?

Wow

Originally posted by tkitna
So people actually think Thor killed Void without Bob's help?

Wow

agreed , this is ridiculous

guys are so far up thor's ass 🙄

Originally posted by quanchi112
Without his cooperation he doesn't go away so this means if he doesn't cooperate he doesn't go away. Without Bob showing up the Void would never have been defeated. This has always been consistent with the Void the only character capable of beating him is himself so Thor can't on his own. Your interview confirms it.

Loki still aided the team so whether he wanted to die is irrelevant since his actions gave new life to the team.

It's also hypocritical of you to say Loki wanted to die but then ignore Bob asking/wanting his own death.

Correct. Doesnt mean that Thor wouldnt have incinerated the void though. Just means the void would have returned. So yeah had Bob not stopped the voids return, eventually all would have died. But thor "killed it" like MM did. Void just respwned. Thor could "kill" it on his own he just needed Bob to not let it return.

Why do u mention the team as if it mattered? Partial damage is useless against the void. and that is the beast that group of mostly street levelrs could ever hope to do.

Oh so now its BOB that wanted to die and not the VOID? The only hypocrisy here is by your part proven in that last statement. Dude Loki let the void kill him. He could have easily escaped. He didnt want to live. The void did.

Originally posted by Damborgson
Correct. Doesnt mean that Thor wouldnt have incinerated the void though. Just means the void would have returned. So yeah had Bob not stopped the voids return, eventually all would have died. But thor "killed it" like MM did. Void just respwned. Thor could "kill" it on his own he just needed Bob to not let it return.

Why do u mention the team as if it mattered? Partial damage is useless against the void. and that is the beast that group of mostly street levelrs could ever hope to do.

Oh so now its BOB that wanted to die and not the VOID? The only hypocrisy here is by your part proven in that last statement. Dude Loki let the void kill him. He could have easily escaped. He didnt want to live. The void did.

No, Thor didn't Bob cooperated into being defeated so not actively coming back and altering his body met he allowed his death and in no way, shape, or form can Thor replicate it without his cooperation.

Bob/Void whatever screamed killed me so despite his appearance Bob's influence yet remained. The Void/Bob demanded Thor kill him. Loki could have escaped but Void just killed him. Loki can't return on the spot and Loki didn't demand hey you kill me the Void did so because Loki interfered.

Just surrender your soul already.

Thor wins via lightning.

Originally posted by quanchi112
No, Thor didn't Bob cooperated into being defeated so not actively coming back and altering his body met he allowed his death and in no way, shape, or form can Thor replicate it without his cooperation.

Bob/Void whatever screamed killed me so despite his appearance Bob's influence yet remained. The Void/Bob demanded Thor kill him. Loki could have escaped but Void just killed him. Loki can't return on the spot and Loki didn't demand hey you kill me the Void did so because Loki interfered.

Yes Thor did. And he could do it again. It would be this.http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/5/52044/1351071-thor_vs_sentry_08_super.jpg without the void screaming kill me. Then we'd see the skeleton, then the void would surge back from the dead.

Bob did right before the influence of the void overwhelmed him again. The void did not want to die. Bob did. Loki from the beginning knew that Siege would lead to his death. Thats why he planned it. Thats why he made sure he would have no afterlife in Hela's domain. He knew he would die and he let the void do it. He didnt have to scream "kill me" he knew it would happen and thats what he wanted.

Just surrender your soul already.
[IMG] ill see you in hell first. 😈

Originally posted by Damborgson
Yes Thor did. And he could do it again. It would be this.http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/5/52044/1351071-thor_vs_sentry_08_super.jpg without the void screaming kill me. Then we'd see the skeleton, then the void would surge back from the dead.

Bob did right before the influence of the void overwhelmed him again. The void did not want to die. Bob did. Loki from the beginning knew that Siege would lead to his death. Thats why he planned it. Thats why he made sure he would have no afterlife in Hela's domain. He knew he would die and he let the void do it. He didnt have to scream "kill me" he knew it would happen and thats what he wanted.

[IMG] ill see you in hell first. 😈

The Void would have never turned into a skeleton in the first place this was him lowering his guard and demanding death. Void stomps here since Bob isn't influencing the outcome.

Bob screamed kill me when as the Void showing it wasn't 100 percent Void anymore ever since the guilt became too much Bob resurfaced.

So how does it suddenly change because Loki knew he would die ? Void still can kill him and the best Loki can do is flee which is a forum loss anyways. Unlike the Void loss to Thor/avengers where he cooperated in his own death.

Void stomps here as there is no Bob and Void can kill him whereas Thor cannot kill the Void without Bob/Void/Sentry's cooperation.

Originally posted by quanchi112
The Void would have never turned into a skeleton in the first place this was him lowering his guard and demanding death. Void stomps here since Bob isn't influencing the outcome.

Bob screamed kill me when as the Void showing it wasn't 100 percent Void anymore ever since the guilt became too much Bob resurfaced.

So how does it suddenly change because Loki knew he would die ? Void still can kill him and the best Loki can do is flee which is a forum loss anyways. Unlike the Void loss to Thor/avengers where he cooperated in his own death.

Void stomps here as there is no Bob and Void can kill him whereas Thor cannot kill the Void without Bob/Void/Sentry's cooperation.

Yes he would have. Thor had the power to do it and he demonstrated it. 😬 the void did not have his guard lowered. He got fried. Nothing more to it.

😂 the void feels no guilt. Bob wanted to die doesnt mean the void did.

how does what suddenly change? This isnt a debate on whether Loki can beat the void or not. He cant. but if Loki wanted to he would have escaped. He WANTED to die. Thats why he started the siege of Asgard. He took control of his own fate. its not like with Bob who wanted to die and then the void took over and attacked everyone again because it didnt want to die. The avengers were nonfactors without the norns.

Thor can still kill the void. He showed the power to do it. Itll just return.

Originally posted by Damborgson
Yes he would have. Thor had the power to do it and he demonstrated it. 😬 the void did not have his guard lowered. He got fried. Nothing more to it.

😂 the void feels no guilt. Bob wanted to die doesnt mean the void did.

how does what suddenly change? This isnt a debate on whether Loki can beat the void or not. He cant. but if Loki wanted to he would have escaped. He WANTED to die. Thats why he started the siege of Asgard. He took control of his own fate. its not like with Bob who wanted to die and then the void took over and attacked everyone again because it didnt want to die. The avengers were nonfactors without the norns.

Thor can still kill the void. He showed the power to do it. Itll just return.

The writer says without his cooperation and shows on panel he wants death and can alter his own molecules.

The Void doesn't but Bob still had control due to kill me as the Void. The Void wouldn't scream kill me, gelfing.

Escaping means he still loses whereas the Void can only be defeated through his own cooperation so without it Thor can't win.

Void can kill Loki and Thor. He brought down all of asgard. Void>>>asgard.

Thor can only do so if he has his cooperation. End of story.

It looked like Loki was trying to use the stones against Void, though. If he wanted to die, why do that?

And killing Loki that easily is a really good feat for Void, if you consider he's taken attacks from the likes of Surter before, when he was amped on the Casks of Ancient Winters...

Originally posted by cdtm
It looked like Loki was trying to use the stones against Void, though. If he wanted to die, why do that?

And killing Loki that easily is a really good feat for Void, if you consider he's taken attacks from the likes of Surter before, when he was amped on the Casks of Ancient Winters...

Cuz he didnt want people to know he wanted to die. This was explained in the new "journey into the Mystery"

Yeah even with Loki letting himself die it was still impressive.

Originally posted by quanchi112
The writer says without his cooperation and shows on panel he wants death and can alter his own molecules.

The Void doesn't but Bob still had control due to kill me as the Void. The Void wouldn't scream kill me, gelfing.

Escaping means he still loses whereas the Void can only be defeated through his own cooperation so without it Thor can't win.

Void can kill Loki and Thor. He brought down all of asgard. Void>>>asgard.

Thor can only do so if he has his cooperation. End of story.

The writer said Bob was needed to make sure the void stayed down permanently. But without Thor the void would have killed everyone. Thor was the only one with the power to bring him down and he did it.

Bob also wouldnt hold down the guy who he just told to kill him. Those were his last words before being consumed again. Bendis was trying to make it epic.

Good Lord. Im not arguing the Loki thing with you. Im not trying to act like he didnt lose. He got blown up.

Thor can and did take him down. Will you argue that just because Bob didnt let the void come back to life that that attack wouldnt have had the same effect? He's have still been incinerated.

Void bringing down Asgard supposed to mean something? If Void>asgard because he destroyed it then Thor>void because Thor killed it. Yes i can be irrational just like you.

Thor can incinerate the void whenever he lets off the power to do. And he does. The void will return? So what? Thor gets the forum win.

thor loses

Originally posted by Damborgson
The writer said Bob was needed to make sure the void stayed down permanently. But without Thor the void would have killed everyone. Thor was the only one with the power to bring him down and he did it.

Bob also wouldnt hold down the guy who he just told to kill him. Those were his last words before being consumed again. Bendis was trying to make it epic.

Good Lord. Im not arguing the Loki thing with you. Im not trying to act like he didnt lose. He got blown up.

Thor can and did take him down. Will you argue that just because Bob didnt let the void come back to life that that attack wouldnt have had the same effect? He's have still been incinerated.

Void bringing down Asgard supposed to mean something? If Void>asgard because he destroyed it then Thor>void because Thor killed it. Yes i can be irrational just like you.

Thor can incinerate the void whenever he lets off the power to do. And he does. The void will return? So what? Thor gets the forum win.

He screamed as the Void kill me so if it was the Void in complete control he would never have uttered those words.

Once again he was never incinerated until he was thrown into the sun and on his own minus Bob's guilt he dominates Thor because without the aid Thor had Bob never would have showed up anyways so Void for the stomp.