Odin VS Gladiator (In a Fist Fight)

Originally posted by Hyperion Prime
Name one physical unamped feat that Odin has that puts him over Gladiator. You just want everyone to lose to Sky-fathers, because Hulk got owned.

This has nothing to do with Hulk since I said that Gladiator would get "one shotted" and Zeus had to pound on Hulk and STILL didn't one shot him. Odin is a skyfather, Gladiator is a high Herald, the tier difference is so extreme that it doesn't matter if Odin is amped or not. He should outright DESTROY Gladiator and he should be capable of doing it in a single hit imo.

Stop bringing up Hulk because Gladiator isn't the Hulk.

Originally posted by carver9
This has nothing to do with Hulk since I said that Gladiator would get "one shotted" and Zeus had to pound on Hulk and STILL didn't one shot him. Odin is a skyfather, Gladiator is a high Herald, the tier difference is so extreme that it doesn't matter if Odin is amped or not. He should outright DESTROY Gladiator and he should be capable of doing it in a single hit imo.

Stop bringing up Hulk because Gladiator isn't the Hulk.

I never bothered to look at the KMC tiers close enough but I think that the KMC posters are reasonable enough to base such a list not on physical attributes only but on overall powers. A Skyfather imho could very well be someone, for example a telepath, who could destroy every mind in the Universe with a though but who couldn't lift a chair with his hands if his life would depend on it.

just like green lanters are "herald level" but only have human strength.....

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
just like green lanters are "herald level" but only have human strength.....

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Yeah GL only h2h vs Daredevil. 2 different tiers and still DD will win.

Originally posted by Batman-Prime
I never bothered to look at the KMC tiers close enough but I think that the KMC posters are reasonable enough to base such a list not on physical attributes only but on overall powers. A Skyfather imho could very well be someone, for example a telepath, who could destroy every mind in the Universe with a though but who couldn't lift a chair with his hands if his life would depend on it.

Odin and Zeus are physically Skyfathers as well. The have ALL of the skyfather qualities... strength, power output... etc, etc...

Originally posted by Nihilist
Carvers Glads 1 shots Odin

Carver amps glads to reduce Superman. This is why he just got him one shotted by Odin, which is much worse than the hulk getting the epic beat down by Zeus.

Originally posted by carver9
Odin and Zeus are physically Skyfathers as well. The have ALL of the skyfather qualities... strength, power output... etc, etc...

But it doesn't has to be higher then herald level, to make them skyfathers... unamped that is.

Originally posted by Batman-Prime
But it doesn't has to be higher then herald level, to make them skyfathers... unamped that is.

But what I am telling you is... everything about Odin is skyfather, not just his energy output. For a guy that can shake Galaxy while having a fist fight, no matter how much he amps, his base strength should be OUTRAGEOUS.

Odin doesnt have that many physical strength feats but he is pretty strong...

http://img585.imageshack.us/img585/1272/odinpimpslap.jpg

http://s1d2.turboimagehost.com/sp/92f0f3f5cfe7d24c641e2de543aa62b7/fear-itself-01-24.jpg

http://img421.imageshack.us/img421/4995/thorvol2527025082by.jpg

Originally posted by carver9
But what I am telling you is... everything about Odin is skyfather, not just his energy output. For a guy that can shake Galaxy while having a fist fight, no matter how much he amps, his base strength should be OUTRAGEOUS.

Just because he is fighting an worthy opponent with fists in an comic, doesn't mean that he isn't fighting him with magic or the mind at the same time. IOW, not the fist fight but the fight in general was shaking the galaxy.

Originally posted by Damborgson
Odin doesnt have that many physical strength feats but he is pretty strong...

http://img585.imageshack.us/img585/1272/odinpimpslap.jpg

http://s1d2.turboimagehost.com/sp/92f0f3f5cfe7d24c641e2de543aa62b7/fear-itself-01-24.jpg

http://img421.imageshack.us/img421/4995/thorvol2527025082by.jpg

Yes. Odin is strong but IMHO (maybe because of the real mythology) Thor is the strongest Asgardian, physically. He should be even stronger then his dad (if unamped), imho. I'm not lowballing Odin, he doesn't need the physical might to defeat his foes, he is a Skyfather after all.

Originally posted by Batman-Prime

Yes. Odin is strong but IMHO (maybe because of the real mythology) Thor is the strongest Asgardian, physically. He should be even stronger then his dad (if unamped), imho. I'm not lowballing Odin, he doesn't need the physical might to defeat his foes, he is a Skyfather after all.

under theses circumstances glads wins. Unless someone can provide scans of odin physically doing damage on a planetary scale. Without the use of his divine and magical abilities. Hell wonder Woman would probobly win, same with captian marvel , superman and any other high hearald.

Originally posted by carver9
But what I am telling you is... everything about Odin is skyfather, not just his energy output. For a guy that can shake Galaxy while having a fist fight, no matter how much he amps, his base strength should be OUTRAGEOUS.

Odin's base strength sucks balls. Take away the Odin power and he'd be just be a high level Asgardian. and Asgardians are just about class 30ish-60ish.

Originally posted by Batman-Prime
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Yeah GL only h2h vs Daredevil. 2 different tiers and still DD will win.

Do you mean Daredevil vs a human GL without his ring? If that's the case then Daredevil wouldn't be fighting a herald, he'd be fighting a normal human.

Or do you mean Daredevil vs a GL who can't use his ring for energy/ranged/special attacks? Because if so then Daredevil certainly won't win, he'll never even phase the GL's autoshield.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Wut?

Do you mean Daredevil vs a human GL without his ring? If that's the case then Daredevil wouldn't be fighting a herald, he'd be fighting a normal human.

Or do you mean Daredevil vs a GL who can't use his ring for energy/ranged/special attacks? Because if so then Daredevil certainly won't win, he'll never even phase the GL's autoshield.

The first one. Vs a normal human being 😉

Gladiator isn't winning this fight at all. You all are completely lowballing Odin.

Originally posted by carver9
Gladiator isn't winning this fight at all. You all are completely lowballing Odin.

Exactly... the tier difference is too enormous for this to be a fight.

^Him being a Skyfather isn't in of itself an iron clad argument for why he beats Heralds in h/h.

You still have to actually show instances of him beating heralds in h/h.

I'm not saying I don't think Odin wins or that those showings don't exist, just that your argument is as usual crap.

Not at all, Odin has never went up against anyone physically without being amped who is on the level of Gladiator. Thor does so bad against Odin because that's his pops. Let's see them fight each other fist to fist without an amp on Odins part.