Asgardians vs. Mutants

Asgardians:
Thor
Destroyer Armor(Sif)
Loki(with all shown weapons)
Warriors Three
Heimdall

vs.

Mutants:
Magneto
Sebastion Shaw
Professor X
Banshee
Havok
Riptide
Azazel

The mutants are the versions shown in First Class
Xavior can walk
Assume that while Xavior cannot control the Asgradians
minds, he can read them
Assume that Magneto cannot directly affect the Asgardians
Fight takes place on the island where the Blackbird crashed and the warships are still around and can be used
Mutants begin by the Submarine
Asgardians begin by the Blackbird
Who wins?

If walking Xavier is anything like wheelchair Xavier, he solos all except for the armor.

Magneto > the armor

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Originally posted by Robtard
If walking Xavier is anything like wheelchair Xavier, he solos all except for the armor.

Magneto > the armor

Have you seen the movie? He does the "freeze everyone" trick in First Class, as well. That said, the OP said he cannot control them minds of the Assguardians. So that trick is out.

I think that Magneto solos when he's not gimped. He can just crush every last one of them because they all have metal on their bodies. They could be hurt even in their "immortal" forms.

The fact that Xavier and Magneto both had to be strongly gimped shows quite clearly that this thread would be one-sided without a gimp.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Have you seen the movie? He does the "freeze everyone" trick in First Class, as well. That said, the OP said he cannot control them minds of the Assguardians. So that trick is out.

I think that Magneto solos when he's not gimped. He can just crush every last one of them because they all have metal on their bodies. They could be hurt even in their "immortal" forms.

The fact that Xavier and Magneto both had to be strongly gimped shows quite clearly that this thread would be one-sided without a gimp.

Haven't, why I said "if he's like wheelchair X". Ah, didnt read closely enough.

Agreed, Magneto could solo too, if he's like his older homosexual self(X1-3) in First Class.

So Xavier isn't really Xavier and Magneto isn't really Magneto, what an odd thread.

Is Azazel a teleporter like Nightcrawler? Cos he'd likely **** shit up then too.

The fact that Xavier and Magneto both had to be strongly gimped shows quite clearly that this thread would be one-sided without a gimp.

Pretty much.

Originally posted by Robtard

Is Azazel a teleporter like Nightcrawler? Cos he'd likely **** shit up then too.

Yes my dear tard, he's just as efficient as his son. The only differences being that he's red, and has no problem killing people until they die.

Magneto and Xavier are way too gimped to win.

What's Charles gonna do by not being able to control minds? Give weather updates and tell his team what the wildest fantasies of the Asgardians are?

I'm sorry that I jumped the gun on this then but I was under the impression that debaters could give the Asgardians some wins through creative use of abilities and aggression (I.E. the Destroyer firing up the moment the match starts or having Thor reign down lightening and Loki freezing everything and illusions). Are these not suitable methods of attaining some wins or am I flat out wrong?

Originally posted by Impediment
Magneto and Xavier are way too gimped to win.

What's Charles gonna do by not being able to control minds? Give weather updates and tell his team what the wildest fantasies of the Asgardians are?

He could have the ships fire on Thor and Mags could restrain or disorient the Destroyer by tossing the sub at it and having Sebastion fry it with its own energy.

Originally posted by Impediment
Magneto and Xavier are way too gimped to win.

What's Charles gonna do by not being able to control minds? Give weather updates and tell his team what the wildest fantasies of the Asgardians are?

Nothing gamebreaking, but he can still coordinate his team and spy on the enemy perfectly. Both are damn helpful in a fight.

Originally posted by Robtard
If walking Xavier is anything like wheelchair Xavier, he solos all except for the armor.

Magneto > the armor

So can Xavier mindrape them? Because if not for that then I say the X-Men are outclassed. Thor is a powerhouse, Loki has too many tricks, and Destroyer....well....destroys.

Loki can walk invisibly amongst the people of Midgard.
A magic dagger blast through the back of Xavier and Erik's heads and the fight starts to turn in the Asgardian's favor.

Actually Loki is the key altogether in this. Once Magento is killed and Thor rains a hurricane on the mutants. Sif in the Destroyer would just disassemble everyone.

Once Magneto tries to lift and harm the Destroyer the invisible Loki would know that Erik is the first target. Followed by that pesky Telepath that is affecting the teams minds.

Asgardians have impressive durability as well as shown by Volstagg. I don't thnk Azazel can cut one so easily.

Loki can walk invisibly amongst the people of Midgard.
A magic dagger blast through the back of Xavier and Erik's heads and the fight starts to turn in the Asgardian's favor.

Xavier will still be able to read his mind.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Xavier will still be able to read his mind.

and Magneto doesn't have to see metal to sense it.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Xavier will still be able to read his mind.

Cool I thought of that as well but the guy has the ability to cloud himself from Heimdall's gaze. I think in invisiblity form just like in the comics he is terrifyingly efficient at walking amongst the Earth.

The infiltration of the SHIELD installations twice in the film are'nt really relevent. But the guy seems to be able to see the world from other locations. And can enter places in earth at his choosing without use of the Bifrost. The guy is an expert sorceror.

He was fighting trapped in a horde of mystical Frost Giants at the beginning. And had I slight hard time. But he can avoid a being who is more impressive than Xavier.

Im just fighting for the Asgardians here.

Originally posted by Robtard
and Magneto doesn't have to see metal to sense it.

How good was this particular ability in Xmen First Class? He could smell out adamantium in X3. And knew when the guard had Mercury in him in X2. But I don't know about First Class.

There is debri everywhere in this locale. Lots of Action. He'll be focused on the Destroyer.

Originally posted by the ninjak

How good was this particular ability in Xmen First Class? He could smell out adamantium in X3. And knew when the guard had Mercury in him in X2. But I don't know about First Class.

There is debri everywhere in this locale. Lots of Action. He'll be focused on the Destroyer.

From what I'm told, he's similar in power, ie same character.

-He stopped all the bullets, he was surrounded by metal, cars, buildings etc. X1

-He sensed Wolverine while on a train, surrounded by metal. X1

-That was iron in the guard's blood-stream, as per what Magneto said. X2

So I'm not sure if "lots of metal" ****s with his sensing ability. Either way, Xavier can be in constant contact with everyone and alert Magneto that some invisible fool is trying to sneak up on him.

Originally posted by Robtard
From what I'm told, he's similar in power, ie same character.

-He stopped all the bullets, he was surrounded by metal, cars, buildings etc. X1

-He sensed Wolverine while on a train, surrounded by metal. X1

-That was iron in the guard's blood-stream, as per what Magneto said. X2

So I'm not sure if "lots of metal" ****s with his sensing ability. Either way, Xavier can be in constant contact with everyone and alert Magneto that some invisible fool is trying to sneak up on him.

This is the First Class versions.
And Xavier sensing him as I said, Loki avoided Heimdall's gaze he is invisible. One magic blast to the back of the head and Mags is dead.
One of those bolts he threw into the Frost Giants arm. Shattering it and the ice blade.
That in the back of a persons's head would die instantly.

Originally posted by the ninjak
This is the First Class versions.
And Xavier sensing him as I said, Loki avoided Heimdall's gaze he is invisible. One magic blast to the back of the head and Mags is dead.
One of those bolts he threw into the Frost Giants arm. Shattering it and the ice blade.
That in the back of a persons's head would die instantly.

Heimdall's gaze isn't Xavier's mind. Apples to oranges. So saying Loki can avoid Xavier's mental capabilities cos he's invisible is unfounded.

Xavier is already gimped enough in this thread cos he'd literally "WTF STOMP" all the living Asgardians by himself and in an instant. No need to gimp him further.