Originally posted by StyleTime
Well, this clearly changes the Cyclops vs Wolverine threads. Wolverine can fight through an optic beam. 😖hifty:Heh. I always assumed you were American for some reason.
I don't think they're trying to kill each other...just maim. Otherwise Wolverine would have stabbed Cyclops in the heart or Cyclops would have knocked Wolverines head off.
Originally posted by ExodusCloak
I don't think they're trying to kill each other...just maim. Otherwise Wolverine would have stabbed Cyclops in the heart or Cyclops would have knocked Wolverines head off.
Though scott can not knock wolverine head off.
Originally posted by Ridley_Prime
This is what happens when an unstoppable Cyclops fanboy meets an immovable Wolverine one. 😖hifty:Whether Cyclops can knock Wolvie's head off or not, Logan's still not getting anywhere near him with his clawz if Scott is serious, IMO.
Seeing has how Wolverine already done so, seems like your rational is quite off. Yes if scot is completely out of character and just took his visor off at the start of a fight it be impossible for Wolverine to win. But then again, it also would not be scot fighting, but simply u using scots powers. It has nothing to do with serous or not serous. Scot fights serous all the time and against Wolverine with out utilizing such tactics. Your post seems missleading.
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Scott using GOML blast is about as likely as Wolverine ninja-vanishing and appearing right behind him.
It funny, because Wolverine done the ninja Vanishing trick at least 4 times if not more then scot done his GOML blast.
Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
what that ur making excuses? I already did.
* you're stubborn, I know you're fond of making excuses…
* tell you what, how about we describe each of the panels?
Panel 1: Logan (head reduced to skull) over Cyke, struggling… face-to-face…
Panel 2: ? ? ?
Panel 3: Cyke blocks/catches and clenches Logan's fist with his own…
Panel 4: Logan's unsheathes his claws, injuring Cyke's hands… Cyke's in pain…
Panel 5: Cyke blasts Logan's head…
Panel 6: Logan (head still a skull) glares at Cyke… a great big piece of PIS/CIS…
Panel 7: Logan moves closer to Cyke…
Panel 8: Cyke's hand that was injured by the claws is bleeding profusely…
Panel 9: ? ? ? an optic blast was fired… but is unclear…
Panel 10: ? ? ? a big dump was falling on top of them…
Panel 11: someone blasts the dump…
Panel 12: ? ? ? I don't know if they stopped fighting for a moment to see who blasted the dump, but Cyke's visor is still flashing and Logan's still looks like in a fit of rage…
* now, can you or anyone explain/describe/interpret what is happening in the panels with ? ? ?... I'm serious, I can't visualize the said panels clearly…
Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
how does scot failing to knock wolverine head off, cis? Because u do realize scot can not accomplish this right?
* why in the blue hell will I say it's CIS in Cyke if I think he can't just blow Logan's head off? you're making no sense… considering the fact that Logan's head was reduced to a skull, it's safe to say that Cyke is more than capable enough keep Logan at bay, much more so, to knock him out… Logan getting that close to Cyke - when Cyke knows they're going to kick each other's a$ses seriously - is purely PIS, CIS or whatever induced stupidity there is in that scenario…
Originally posted by Ridley_Prime
This is what happens when an unstoppable Cyclops fanboy meets an immovable Wolverine one.Whether Cyclops can knock Wolvie's head off or not, Logan's still not getting anywhere near him with his clawz if Scott is serious, IMO.
* well, that's funny… since you put it that way, then you're a Cyclops fanboy too… 😆
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Scott using GOML blast is about as likely as Wolverine ninja-vanishing and appearing right behind him.
Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
Yet of you talk to some Scot fans, it seems like he does it every sunday.It funny, because Wolverine done the ninja Vanishing trick at least 4 times if not more then scot done his GOML blast.
* hell, no… now this is a manifestation of a severely blinded Wolverine fanboy… Logan, eventhough performing that trick at least 4 times, is not doing that to Cyke in normal circumstances, especially since even if he can do it, it still requires an effort, a calm disciplined effort which, I think, is difficult in Logan's part when he is in berserker rage mode…
* while Cyke unleashing a "get-of-my-lawn" optic blast requires him no effort at all… not unless you consider "opening his eyes" and/or "removing his visor" a great big hell of an effort…
Wolverine while berserker dodged all of Crimson Dynamo's blasts and used environment against him, cut off Deadpool's fingers so he wouldn't be able to pull the trigger, etc. And who says he's berserker anyway?
Exodus really shouldn't have posted that sketch, not even the first issue has been released yet.
Originally posted by peejayd
* you're stubborn, I know you're fond of making excuses…* tell you what, how about we describe each of the panels?
Panel 1: Logan (head reduced to skull) over Cyke, struggling… face-to-face…
Panel 2: [b]? ? ?
Panel 3: Cyke blocks/catches and clenches Logan's fist with his own…
Panel 4: Logan's unsheathes his claws, injuring Cyke's hands… Cyke's in pain…
Panel 5: Cyke blasts Logan's head…
Panel 6: Logan (head still a skull) glares at Cyke… a great big piece of PIS/CIS…
Panel 7: Logan moves closer to Cyke…
Panel 8: Cyke's hand that was injured by the claws is bleeding profusely…
Panel 9: ? ? ? an optic blast was fired… but is unclear…
Panel 10: ? ? ? a big dump was falling on top of them…
Panel 11: someone blasts the dump…
Panel 12: ? ? ? I don't know if they stopped fighting for a moment to see who blasted the dump, but Cyke's visor is still flashing and Logan's still looks like in a fit of rage…
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Proving our cyke fanboyism, is still, as strong as always. Love the crazy tangent about nothing.
What does anything u say counter the fact ur making excuses for an issue that has not even come out yet?
Also love how you think the CIS works one way and not the other. Wolverien easily could have stabbed scot in the face or cut his arm off and id not. It a two way street my friend.
Scott can't knock wolverine head off, it your under that impression you are simply mistaken.
Also Wolverine can and has dodge inbetween scots blasts to get to him. Despite how much is displeases u.
Originally posted by peejayd
* why in the blue hell will I say it's CIS in Cyke if I think he can't just blow Logan's head off? you're making no sense… considering the fact that Logan's head was reduced to a skull, it's safe to say that Cyke is more than capable enough keep Logan at bay, much more so, to knock him out… Logan getting that close to Cyke - when Cyke knows they're going to kick each other's a$ses seriously - is purely PIS, CIS or whatever induced stupidity there is in that scenario…
Also I dont get most of this rant, my entire point was that Scot can not blow wolveirne head off. Are u saying he can? Because he can't and that is a fact.
Originally posted by peejayd
* hell, no… now this is a manifestation of a severely blinded Wolverine fanboy… Logan, eventhough performing that trick at least 4 times, is not doing that to Cyke in normal circumstances,
Clearly went over your head. We were never using it as an arguement, we were making fun of u cyke fanboys for pretending every fight scot goes in he just takes off his visor which is utterly rediculous.
I was not saying he did it 4 times, I was saying he done his ninja vanishing trick at least 4 times more then scot has done his get off the lawn blast.
Originally posted by peejayd
especially since even if he can do it, it still requires an effort, a calm disciplined effort which, I think, is difficult in Logan's part when he is in berserker rage mode…
Clearly u lack knowledge on Wolverine. He was not berserk, there was zero indication of it.
Also Wolverine as stilt pointed out does not lose any intellect to berserker rage, in fact it been implied his mind operates even faster. By the way Wolverine naturally utilizes stealth while berserker, so this comment by you just shows poor knolwedge of the characte rin question. Wolverine while berserker for example in the first 2 issues of agent of shield utilized stealth to kill countless super villains.
* @ Dum Dum Dugan… what in the blue hell is your problem? you come out here saying that I'm making excuses… excuses of what? I don't even have any intention of arguing with anyone… but since it's already here, here goes...
Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
Proving our cyke fanboyism, is still, as strong as always. Love the crazy tangent about nothing.What does anything u say counter the fact ur making excuses for an issue that has not even come out yet?
* and why on earth are you arguing for an issue that has not even come out yet? 🙄
Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
Also love how you think the CIS works one way and not the other. Wolverien easily could have stabbed scot in the face or cut his arm off and id not. It a two way street my friend.
* provided Cyke is stupid enough to allow Logan rush close to him…
Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
Scott can't knock wolverine head off, it your under that impression you are simply mistaken.Also Wolverine can and has dodge inbetween scots blasts to get to him. Despite how much is displeases u.
* without CIS, Cyke knock out Logan with his blast, it's just your fanboyism (and stupid writers who ride on Logan's popularity) that makes you think it's not… and Cyke also manages to dodge Logan's swings and slashes, which is much easier feat than dodging an uber-fast optic blast…
Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
WOlverine has display the ability to dodge scot blast several times. He could with out a doubt close the distance if scot kept his visor on.Also I dont get most of this rant, my entire point was that Scot can not blow wolveirne head off. Are u saying he can? Because he can't and that is a fact.
* and what I emphasize is that I do not understand the drawings on the lower panel… you started this argument, dum-dum (pun intented)…
Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
Clearly went over your head. We were never using it as an arguement, we were making fun of u cyke fanboys for pretending every fight scot goes in he just takes off his visor which is utterly rediculous.
* that's not what you're saying… this is what you were saying:
Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
Yet of you talk to some Scot fans, it seems like he does it every sunday.It funny, because Wolverine done the ninja Vanishing trick at least 4 times if not more then scot done his GOML blast.
* you are trying to imply that Logan doing a ninja-vanishing trick is much more credible or much more believable than Cyke removing his visor and release a GOML blast… and I've been saying that it is not the case because releasing an GOML blast requires Cyke no effort at all, than Logan performing an out-of-character cheap trick circus…
Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
I was not saying he did it 4 times, I was saying he done his ninja vanishing trick at least 4 times more then scot has done his get off the lawn blast.
* your point? … is nonsense…
Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
Clearly u lack knowledge on Wolverine. He was not berserk, there was zero indication of it.Also Wolverine as stilt pointed out does not lose any intellect to berserker rage, in fact it been implied his mind operates even faster. By the way Wolverine naturally utilizes stealth while berserker, so this comment by you just shows poor knolwedge of the characte rin question. Wolverine while berserker for example in the first 2 issues of agent of shield utilized stealth to kill countless super villains.
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Wolverine while berserker dodged all of Crimson Dynamo's blasts and used environment against him, cut off Deadpool's fingers so he wouldn't be able to pull the trigger, etc. And who says he's berserker anyway?
* then the term "berserk" is a misnomer… see the definition of the word, then tell me if someone who's berserk is capable of rational thinking…
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Exodus really shouldn't have posted that sketch, not even the first issue has been released yet.
* can't blame him… any X-fan would be excited to see Cyke & Logan duke it out once and for all… I just hope they do Cyke's some justice against a more popular and overrated Marvel character…
Originally posted by peejayd
* you are trying to imply that Logan doing a ninja-vanishing trick is much more credible or much more believable than Cyke removing his visor and release a GOML blast… and I've been saying that it is [b]not the case because releasing an GOML blast requires Cyke no effort at all, than Logan performing an out-of-character cheap trick circus…[/b]
How is it out-of-character? Wolverine's all about stealth, dude.
Summers not playing fair and using a GOML beam against a low meta is very much out of character though.
Originally posted by peejayd * then the term "berserk" is a misnomer… see the definition of the word, then tell me if someone who's berserk is capable of rational thinking…* can't blame him… any X-fan would be excited to see Cyke & Logan duke it out once and for all… I just hope they do Cyke's some justice against a more popular and overrated Marvel character…
Yes, it is. His berserker rage is nothing like the others.
He's regressed to the emotional response pattern of a berserker killer ape, but he retains highly sophisticated combat skills and is capable of complex strategic decisions within a compressed time frame - Wolverine v2 #51.
I just wish he would have used spoiler tags ermm But who am I kidding, I wouldn't be able to stop myself from checking the link anyway 😛
In the second panel it looks like, I dunno, Wolverine headbutted Cyclops?
Panel 9 - no optic blast here, just a close-up of their fingers.
Panel 10 - looks like a fist to me. In Prelude they were talking about some giant threatening Utopia, maybe that's him?
Originally posted by peejayd
* @ Dum Dum Dugan… what in the blue hell is your problem? you come out here saying that I'm making excuses… excuses of what? I don't even have any intention of arguing with anyone… but since it's already here, here goes...
Originally posted by peejayd
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* and why on earth are you arguing for an issue that has not even come out yet? 🙄
I not, im argueing with the fact ur making excuses for scot based of incomplete and out of context scans.
Your also so bias, that u pretend that cis only impacts scot in that scan which is extremely inaccurate.
Originally posted by peejayd
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* provided Cyke is stupid enough to allow Logan rush close to him…
He does not need to allow it, wolveirne has done so before and could very well accomplish it again, against in character Cyclopes.
Originally posted by peejayd
** without CIS, Cyke knock out Logan with his blast, it's just [b]your
fanboyism (and stupid writers who ride on Logan's popularity) that makes you think it's not… and Cyke also manages to dodge Logan's swings and slashes, which is much easier feat than dodging an uber-fast optic blast…[/B]
Yes and? With out CIS, he not scot anymore, he u with scots powers. The whole with out CIS argument is simply foolishness, because it taking the character powers and not who they are as a character into account. Also Wolverine prior to his popularity has withstood scots blasts. The popularity nonsenses is a cop out.
Wolverine has dodge scots optic blast many more times then Scot has dodge Wolverine claws.
Also Wolverine combat speed and reaction time is leaps and bounds over scots own.
Originally posted by peejayd
** and what I emphasize is that I do not understand the drawings on the lower panel… you started this argument, dum-dum (pun intented)…
Not really. All I said was Excuses Excuses. U are the one who started making the giant rants, and turned this into a serous argument.. Ur also the one being crazy bias with ur interpetations.
Originally posted by peejayd
** that's not what you're saying… [b]this
is what you were saying:
[/B]
DO u understand what u quoted support my stance we were making jibes at u scot fans? How did u not realize that when I said “scot fans pretend like he uses GOML blast ever Sunday”
Originally posted by peejayd
** you are trying to imply that Logan doing a ninja-vanishing trick is much more credible or much more believable than Cyke removing his visor and release a GOML blast… and I've been saying that it is [b]not
the case because releasing an GOML blast requires Cyke no effort at all, than Logan performing an out-of-character cheap trick circus…[/B]
Originally posted by peejayd
** your point? … is nonsense…
No it not, ur just dense as ****. My point is, ur arguing scot using a move he rarely ever uses as if it his go to move, when it not. He used it less then 10 times in decades of appearances.
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Originally posted by peejayd
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then the term "berserk" is a misnomer… see the definition of the word, then tell me if someone who's berserk is capable of rational thinking…
And u do understand there a numerous definition of the word berserk.
Such an example is this
“nearly uncontrollable, trance-like fury,”
Berserk Wolverine rational thought is also alter. He views everyone as enemy, making him irrational to deal with, it however has no impact upon his ability to fight, he simply comsumed by blood lust. U might try actually using a comic interpetation of wolverine berserk, which it been described numerous times.
I under the impression u have no read many if any Wolverine appearances.
Obviously they are both holding back. An adamantium headbutt from Wolverine would oneshot Scott if he was at all serious and if Logan moved his hand forward he'd split Cyclops' arm into three sections with no resistance.
Looks like a giant fist made out of metal debris, maybe Magneto decides he should he should just crush them both?