Spiderman vs Warpath

Originally posted by cdtm
His fights against Hulk didn't make him look like much of a moron..

Not when he was creatively using the environment to incapacitate him, instead of simply slugging it out.

SO lets see evidence, because honestly think your full of....

Also he does not look like a moron when he fights Logan, he simply gets beaten, which most brick melee orient fighters do as well.

good lord, i peek into the thread of spidey v warpath and find to my shock: logan talk!

anywho, spidey takes it, but it's not a clean sweep. wp can get a couple. if it's current spidey, wp can get maybe the good majority.

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
The fact Wolverine faster then him and can do serous damage to him. I mean you do understand wolverine not going to just allow Namor to do that.

So there's evidence to support Wolverine being faster than Namor even in flight? I can understand Wolverine having the edge in combat speed, if for nothing else other than it being a necessity for their battles, but that doesn't mean he can prevent the tactic. It's not a case of whether or not Wolverine will allow it. It's whether or not he can do anything about it.

Has Namor ever tried the tactic and failed? If he has, then I concede the point, if he hasn't, then I don't understand the problem.

Namor is extremely fast and maneuverable in flight so it's not some kind of knock against Logan:
http://i401.photobucket.com/albums/pp92/clokeagne_supernova/Namor%20Respect/Guest%20apps/Speed%20Skill/Avengers117b.jpg
http://i401.photobucket.com/albums/pp92/clokeagne_supernova/Namor%20Respect/Namor%20titles/Speedd%20Skill/Sub-Mariner52a.jpg

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
We saw namor take advantage of circumstance that are not in place in typical encounter between the two. Also notice how your taking that showing over the other several times they fought with Namor admitting inferioprity or straight up getting beaten or having narration stating he not as fast.

Oh shit, how foolish of me, Wolverine was amped/posssessed and saw Namor coming but the tactic still worked:
http://i709.photobucket.com/albums/ww99/Strangerinthenight/Wolverine_7_Oroboros_CPS_011.jpg
http://i709.photobucket.com/albums/ww99/Strangerinthenight/Wolverine_7_Oroboros_CPS_012.jpg

I'm not doing anything of the sort. If you have evidence to support the tactic failing, then present it and I'll reevaluate my position.

Just because I don't agree with you doesn't mean I have some vendetta or that I'm going out of my way to make Logan look bad. Grow up.

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
He fast, but still not as fast. He caught wolverine by surprise because he though the system in place would hold namor, he was wrong. It was very circumstantial. Idea he pull that off in tytpical encounter is reaching badly.

baka Yes, I'm reaching because I'm clearly so desperate. I'll admit, Logan was taken off guard to some extent, but the scene doesn't exactly hurt my argument:
http://i401.photobucket.com/albums/pp92/clokeagne_supernova/Namor%20Respect/Namor%20titles/Battles/Revolution03d.jpg
http://i401.photobucket.com/albums/pp92/clokeagne_supernova/Namor%20Respect/Namor%20titles/Battles/Revolution03e.jpg

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
So there's evidence to support Wolverine being faster than Namor even in flight? I can understand Wolverine having the edge in combat speed, if for nothing else other than it being a necessity for their battles, but that doesn't mean he can prevent the tactic. It's not a case of whether or not Wolverine will allow it. It's whether or not he can do anything about it.

Has Namor ever tried the tactic and failed? If he has, then I concede the point, if he hasn't, then I don't understand the problem.

Namor is extremely fast and maneuverable in flight so it's not some kind of knock against Logan:
http://i401.photobucket.com/albums/pp92/clokeagne_supernova/Namor%20Respect/Guest%20apps/Speed%20Skill/Avengers117b.jpg
http://i401.photobucket.com/albums/pp92/clokeagne_supernova/Namor%20Respect/Namor%20titles/Speedd%20Skill/Sub-Mariner52a.jpg

Oh shit, how foolish of me, Wolverine was amped/posssessed and saw Namor coming but the tactic still worked:
http://i709.photobucket.com/albums/ww99/Strangerinthenight/Wolverine_7_Oroboros_CPS_011.jpg
http://i709.photobucket.com/albums/ww99/Strangerinthenight/Wolverine_7_Oroboros_CPS_012.jpg

I'm not doing anything of the sort. If you have evidence to support the tactic failing, then present it and I'll reevaluate my position.

Just because I don't agree with you doesn't mean I have some vendetta or that I'm going out of my way to make Logan look bad. Grow up.

baka Yes, I'm reaching because I'm clearly so desperate. I'll admit, Logan was taken off guard to some extent, but the scene doesn't exactly hurt my argument:
http://i401.photobucket.com/albums/pp92/clokeagne_supernova/Namor%20Respect/Namor%20titles/Battles/Revolution03d.jpg
http://i401.photobucket.com/albums/pp92/clokeagne_supernova/Namor%20Respect/Namor%20titles/Battles/Revolution03e.jpg

If your gunna start posting scans bump the namor thread, Im not clouding this thread up with wolverine feats.

Bump the Namor and Wolvie thread if you're going to continue with this. I don't mind personally, as both are inferior to Wonderman, but it's better to discuss things in the threads they are supposed to be discussed.

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
If your gunna start posting scans bump the namor thread, Im not clouding this thread up with wolverine feats.

Here you go:
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=465966&pagenumber=157

It's pretty simple, the tactic has either failed or it hasn't.

Superman via HV

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Here you go:
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=465966&pagenumber=157

It's pretty simple, the tactic has either failed or it hasn't.

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
Not really it much more complex then that. Since your only example is possessed wolverine, which is not useable to begin with. Yes it not usable in positive light just as much as negative, but I responded to the entire arguement after the Bruins Game. I dident even wanna get into this, but guess I have no chioce now.

Not really. Wolverine has the edge in combat reflexes? That's swell and irrelevant to the discussion at hand. This isn't brain surgery. Either he's prevented the tactic or not.

Wow. Will Jinzin kill your family if you don't defend Wolverine to the last breath?

Oh and just in case you missed them the first time around, here's Namor using Wolverine as a bowling ball:
http://i401.photobucket.com/albums/pp92/clokeagne_supernova/Namor%20Respect/Namor%20titles/Battles/Revolution03d.jpg
http://i401.photobucket.com/albums/pp92/clokeagne_supernova/Namor%20Respect/Namor%20titles/Battles/Revolution03e.jpg

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Not really. Wolverine has the edge in combat reflexes? That's swell and irrelevant to the discussion at hand. This isn't brain surgery. Either he's prevented the tactic or not.

Wow. Will Jinzin kill your family if you don't defend Wolverine to the last breath?

Oh and just in case you missed them the first time around, here's Namor using Wolverine as a bowling ball:
http://i401.photobucket.com/albums/pp92/clokeagne_supernova/Namor%20Respect/Namor%20titles/Battles/Revolution03d.jpg
http://i401.photobucket.com/albums/pp92/clokeagne_supernova/Namor%20Respect/Namor%20titles/Battles/Revolution03e.jpg

But I dont worry rage I wont forget. But thanks for making things personal.

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
I saw that, but thanks for being a dick.
Fact you dont see how circumstancial the event is, just makes it amusing, but don't worry I adress your entire post in time, I have a job, dont have time nor the ability at the moment to be uploading scans.

But I dont worry rage I wont forget. But thanks for making things personal.

Hey, I was just being thorough. Didn't want you to miss anything. 🙂

Wolverine wasn't fully prepared. No more, no less.

I don't see why you have to go through so much trouble bud. Has it ever failed or not? Let's put it this way, is there any evidence of Wolverine countering Namor's flight? Less final but easier to respond to.

I didn't know having some fun at Wolverine's expense would upset you so much. I was unaware that you had a short Canadian shaped hole where your heart should be.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Wow. Will Jinzin kill your family if you don't defend Wolverine to the last breath?

lol

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
I wouldn't fret on it if I were you. I screwed up so many exams this week, it's unimaginable. And booze is not an option, cause it's still not over and I need to keep my mind clear. Now THAT'S something to be pissed about.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW

So it's official war now? Snikt vs thwip? Sounds good to me 😄

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW

It's nothing new for him when they come in seperate packages, but all in one?

Warpath's durability was getting wanked in his recent appearances. It might have been all hype though, I admit that.

So Spidey pwns everyone and their mother with webbing? Colossus lv strength + flight + vibranium knives should be enough to break him free.

Colossus level is a bit too far imo, Piotr is class 100+. Warpath is what? 70-80? And im pretty sure he barely has any strength feats to back up his weight class.

Well, why shouldnt he? Webbing is his only weapon and there are tons of examples of it working against simillar and even more powerful opponents. Pete uses it as often as Logan uses his claws so I dont see a reason why he wont choose to end the fight as fast as possible.

Originally posted by SamZED
Im shutting up now about my "problems". You got it rough, buddy. 🙁

Next week's gonna be hell, too.

Originally posted by SamZED
Heh. Nah, im not gonna bump that old thread, just gonna put more time and effort into backing Spidey from now on. At least until he starts getting the respect on the vs forum.

You know what, it'd be a good idea to copy and paste posts from Spidey's respect thread from herochat... seeing as most KMCers aren't registered there (including me) and thus don't have the access.

Originally posted by SamZED
Granted, he never faced anyone exactly like him.. But some of his enemies are way more versatile than Warpath, SM is a quickthinker.

Colossus level is a bit too far imo, Piotr is class 100+. Warpath is what? 70-80? And im pretty sure he barely has any strength feats to back up his weight class.

Well, why shouldnt he? Webbing is his only weapon and there are tons of examples of it working against simillar and even more powerful opponents. Pete uses it as often as Logan uses his claws so I dont see a reason why he wont choose to end the fight as fast as possible.

Teenage Colossus (should have been more specific). His most notable strength feats were performed during his fight with Juggernaut and Demon Bear*, I believe.

His webbing didn't stop Rhino. Proudstar is close enough to him in strength department, has flight that impressed Stryfe himself and vibranium knives. If BP can break free of the webbing, Warpath sure as hell can 😛

*James having fought the DEMON BEAR makes all of your arguments invalid, by the way biscuits It's like Batman riding an elephant.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Next week's gonna be hell, too.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW

You know what, it'd be a good idea to copy and paste posts from Spidey's respect thread from herochat... seeing as most KMCers aren't registered there (including me) and thus don't have the access.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW

Teenage Colossus (should have been more specific). His most notable strength feats were performed during his fight with Juggernaut and Demon Bear*, I believe.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW

His webbing didn't stop Rhino. Proudstar is close enough to him in strength department, has flight that impressed Stryfe himself and vibranium knives. If BP can break free of the webbing, Warpath sure as hell can 😛

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW

*James having fought the [b]DEMON BEAR makes all of your arguments invalid, by the way biscuits It's like Batman riding an elephant. [/B]

Originally posted by SamZED
Good luck with your exams.

Thanks... gonna need it.

Originally posted by SamZED
I have the access, and some of the scans they posted in the respect thread were actually stolen from me.😒 I was gonna post some scans in KMC's thread but too lazy.🙁 Will get to it eventually.

Not nice. I always try to give the credit to the original uploader.

Who has made it anyway? Darkcrawler? Just quote his posts, so you won't have to organize and describe everything again.

I wanted to do Silver Samurai and Cyber threads, but laziness got the better of me 😛

Originally posted by SamZED
That one of the old x-force books? Been years since Ive read it. Didnt his strength change since then?

Yes, that's the one. X-Force vs. Classic Juggernaut, Shatterstar gouging his eyes out.

Since he's got the knives, his strength is written in a fashion similar to Wolverine, Sabretooth, Puma or Drax ('cept the last one got actually depowered), meaning he hardly ever lifts something or do stuff typical for other "strong guys". Cutting people up sells more comics, after all.

There was no official depowerement and X-Force writers stated in the interview they wanted him to be X-Force's Strong Guy. There's the Demon Bear's jaw feat, him embedding fingers in a steel door and ripping it out, him bullrushing Stryfe, but for more from modern era I'd have to look.

Originally posted by SamZED
Rhino is secretly a herald of Galactus, he onwed Surfer and only lost because of PIS.nono There are plenty of characters in that weight class the webbing worked against. Vibranium would work great against a few threads of webbing. But Imagine a 20-feet radius web-ball, itd take him lots of time to get out of it if he could at all.

Pfft. Spider-man fought the Grizzly.

Like who? Who with Rhino's level strength couldn't break free? Not talking about being slowed down.

Webbing at its absolute best is ridiculous... good thing it's expensive and Parker is avaricious, he'd sooner get his ass handed to him than use more than 10% of the web fluid 😛

They're gonna team-up and fight the Demon Grizzly! vin

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Webbing at its absolute best is ridiculous... good thing it's expensive and Parker is avaricious, he'd sooner get his ass handed to him than use more than 10% of the web fluid 😛

They're gonna team-up and fight the Demon Grizzly! vin

Originally posted by Parmaniac
Webbing at it's absolute best beats Wolverine without Spider-man.

Healing factor at its absolute best absorbs the webbing biscuits

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Not nice. I always try to give the credit to the original uploader.

Who has made it anyway? Darkcrawler? Just quote his posts, so you won't have to organize and describe everything again.

I wanted to do Silver Samurai and Cyber threads, but laziness got the better of me 😛

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW

Yes, that's the one. X-Force vs. Classic Juggernaut, Shatterstar gouging his eyes out.

Since he's got the knives, his strength is written in a fashion similar to Wolverine, Sabretooth, Puma or Drax ('cept the last one got actually depowered), meaning he hardly ever lifts something or do stuff typical for other "strong guys". Cutting people up sells more comics, after all.

There was no official depowerement and X-Force writers stated in the interview they wanted him to be X-Force's Strong Guy. There's the Demon Bear's jaw feat, him embedding fingers in a steel door and ripping it out, him bullrushing Stryfe, but for more from modern era I'd have to look.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW

Like who? Who with Rhino's level strength couldn't break free? Not talking about being slowed down.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW

Webbing at its absolute best is ridiculous... good thing it's expensive and Parker is avaricious, he'd sooner get his ass handed to him than use more than 10% of the web fluid 😛

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW

They're gonna team-up and fight the Demon Grizzly! vin

Originally posted by SamZED
Cyber is meh..😛 But Samurai definitely needs a new respect thread. The guy is a beast.

Classic Cyber didn't suck nearly as much as the one written by Way. But yeah, compared to other villains he's meh.

Originally posted by SamZED
Weird, could swear I heard they depowered him slightly. TBH cant remember that fight in details, only remember that it happened. Did he use his strength against Juggs? Cause if he held his own at least for awhile that's impressive.

That's what you hear on the boards, but in fact he should be even stronger now, seeing as he's older. I read on Marvel Directory he has the potential to reach Class 90.

Originally posted by SamZED
Some of them tore it eventually, but it held long enough to count as win. There's Blob I mentioned, he was stopped cold and couldnt escape with just two cartriges. Then there's Ms. Marvel, held her down with just several threads. Rogue (yep im using the secret wars incident 😈 ), there was this mosnter it slowed down (forgot his name, but he was said to be in Hulk's weightclass), heck it slowed down Juggernaut's momentum. Warpath isnt escaping.😎

And where does it say in the rules? KO not being a permanent coma is fine, but incapacitation should be permanent, IMO.

Rogue didn't tear it to shreds only because she hoped for some fun with her teammates in that position.

Originally posted by SamZED
😒 Parker is rich now. Give him a few issues and he'll move into Hefner's mansion.

Parker abhors orgasms. He's only into nerdgasms.

Originally posted by SamZED
They both lose to the mighty Ursa Major. The badass bear with a hammer.😮‍💨

Ursa is the only real Worthy.