Originally posted by Bardock42hm, I'll have to try it sometime. Hopefully before it's made illegal or whatever.
It was good. No, it did not taste like fish. More like beef. I only had it once and it was prepared like a steak, so I wouldn't say I am a specialist on the culinary properties of the meat.
Originally posted by Bardock42almost all the species are endangered, several have been extinguished by the practice and industrial whaling is just inherently unsustainable because of the scale.
Whaling just doesn't seem like that big of an issue. I understand whales are cute so that probably helps.Over fishing in general is a big problem and one often made worse by ill informed government intervention.
Generally I don't see a problem with hunting and eating whales if it within limits and of a healthy not close to extinct species. Though I don't know if we are really losing if there's five whales opposed to zero.
also, hoooray sea shepperds!
this wont stop japanese whaling as it is too ingrained in their culture, but all efforts are valid
Originally posted by 753
almost all the species are endangered, several have been extinguished by the practice and industrial whaling is just inherently unsustainable because of the scale.also, hoooray sea shepperds!
this wont stop japanese whaling as it is too ingrained in their culture, but all efforts are valid
That's incorrect. There are several species which are not endangered at all at the moment. And it is sustainable at certain rates (as shown in Scandinavian Countries and parts of Alaska). Obviously anything is unsustainable when the scale is too high.
Originally posted by Bardock42most are endangered- and got that way because of whaling - I was refering to big cetaceans btw, the ones commonly associated with the term 'whales'
That's incorrect. There are several species which are not endangered at all at the moment. And it is sustainable at certain rates (as shown in Scandinavian Countries and parts of Alaska). Obviously anything is unsustainable when the scale is too high.
industrial whaling is not sustainable and if it goes on at the current rates, the species that arent endangered today will probably become so in the future, not that the japanese spare the threatened whales, they dress t up as scientific hunting and sell the meat just the same
Like I said, I do think restrictions should be applied to hunting, but it can be sustainable within reasonable limits, what you call industrial whaling is open to interpretation I suppose, but something that I think would classify as industrial could surely be sustainable.
The real problem for whales isn't their hunting anyways, it is large scale net fishing, which kills the majority of whales without any use as they are just discarded.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2011-07-13/japanese-whalers-returning-to-southern-ocean/2793346
commercial whaling.. is supposedly illegal.. since 1986
researching through whaling is a grey area...
japanese whaling activities decreased overall.. something like 500 whales one year.. to like 180 something the next.. in the year they closed up shop early...
while i don't think whaling will cease altogether.. i think it'll go the way of novelty fishing if people continue their efforts against japan.
even austrailia doesn't agree to assist japan because it doesn't recognize the legality of the actions.
Originally posted by rotiartproblem is those regulations dont have the same strengh as international law
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2011-07-13/japanese-whalers-returning-to-southern-ocean/2793346commercial whaling.. is supposedly illegal.. since 1986
researching through whaling is a grey area...japanese whaling activities decreased overall.. something like 500 whales one year.. to like 180 something the next.. in the year they closed up shop early...
while i don't think whaling will cease altogether.. i think it'll go the way of novelty fishing if people continue their efforts against japan.
even austrailia doesn't agree to assist japan because it doesn't recognize the legality of the actions.
Originally posted by rotiartnovelty fishing?
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2011-07-13/japanese-whalers-returning-to-southern-ocean/2793346commercial whaling.. is supposedly illegal.. since 1986
researching through whaling is a grey area...japanese whaling activities decreased overall.. something like 500 whales one year.. to like 180 something the next.. in the year they closed up shop early...
while i don't think whaling will cease altogether.. i think it'll go the way of novelty fishing if people continue their efforts against japan.
even austrailia doesn't agree to assist japan because it doesn't recognize the legality of the actions.
As long as the whaling is regulated, and the Japanese whalers don't cause any extinctions nor dramatic endangerments of any species, I approve of it. Most of the resources that whales provide can be produced synthetically. However, I understand that it's much easier to get those resources by just going out and killing a whale, rather than spending thousands of dollars producing them in a lab.
Originally posted by Robtardwhat makes one life more important than another because of intelligence ?
That's not a fair comparison.-Cows and chickens are stupid
-Cows and chickens aren't endangered
-Cows and chickens won't save the planet in 2286
or if they are endangered or not ? I guess people should face bigger consequences for shooting at a bald eagle than a person.
Originally posted by Bardock42This makes more sense than the aggregate sum of everything else on this thread.
Like I said, I do think restrictions should be applied to hunting, but it can be sustainable within reasonable limits, what you call industrial whaling is open to interpretation I suppose, but something that I think would classify as industrial could surely be sustainable.The real problem for whales isn't their hunting anyways, it is large scale net fishing, which kills the majority of whales without any use as they are just discarded.