The Earth is Full

Started by Omega Vision2 pages

Originally posted by The Dark Cloud
If we don't live in harmony with the rest of the world, if we over pollute and overuse it's resources, then I would say we are a detritmint to and definitly seperate from other living things here.

The idea that it's even possible to live in harmony with the rest of the world is pretty fallacious.

You can minimize environmental damage and promote biodiversity, but nature isn't some magical balanced equation that people came into and ****ed up.

Humans are really just the most successful animals on the planet, to suggest that its our essential "humanness" that causes us to "imbalance" the world is just naive.

White tailed deer if given the chance will out-compete and out-breed other herbivores, wolves will if given the chance breed huge numbers and hunt and eat prey to extinction, etc.

Again, nature isn't a perfect ordered system that just got ****ed up by humanity. It's a chaotic cluster****.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos

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This reminds me of Star Wars nerds discussing the problem with Coruscant, one being that the whole planet should melt from heat pollution of having nothing but cities.

Oh that's a great point. So Coruscant has about 1 000 000 people per square kilometer. There's 7 000 000 000 people in the world so we need about 7000 sqare km of space. Puerto Rico is about 8000 sq km, so we can fit the whole earth population comfortably there

Originally posted by Bardock42
Oh that's a great point. So Coruscant has about 1 000 000 people per square kilometer. There's 7 000 000 000 people in the world so we need about 7000 sqare km of space. Puerto Rico is about 8000 sq km, so we can fit the whole earth population comfortably there

I once read a statistic that claimed that if you had everyone pack together like sardines and stand shoulder to shoulder you could fit the entire world population on the Isle of Man

I once read that the worlds' entire population can fit inside the state of Texas if that helps any..

Originally posted by Omega Vision
The idea that it's even possible to live in harmony with the rest of the world is pretty fallacious.

You can minimize environmental damage and promote biodiversity, but nature isn't some magical balanced equation that people came into and ****ed up.

Humans are really just the most successful animals on the planet, to suggest that its our essential "humanness" that causes us to "imbalance" the world is just naive.

White tailed deer if given the chance will out-compete and out-breed other herbivores, wolves will if given the chance breed huge numbers and hunt and eat prey to extinction, etc.

Again, nature isn't a perfect ordered system that just got ****ed up by humanity. It's a chaotic cluster****.

I beg to differ. The biomass of the earth has survived over a billion years with a few major disruptions along the way (celestial impacts, major volcanic activity, climate change) and has always made an eventual recovery. It has almost always existed in balance as well. This is the first time in natural history however that one of those disruptions is being caused by a single species and that is a very recent event. We are the first species in the history of the planet to evolve cognative reasoning ability and that places us in a unique position. Rather than use the earths resources faster than they can be replenished, we might consider that it is better for the planet, and ultimately ourselves, as well to re look at how we use those resources and seriously look at curbing our population.

In the end humans really aren't special. We're really just a smart, upright ape. But if we continue on our present path I fear we will start to reverse the habitability of our world, not only for the millions of other species that have just as much right as we do to be here, but also for ourselves as well.

Originally posted by The Dark Cloud
It has almost always existed in balance as well.

cyanobacteria?

If we´d stop spending money on blowing the crap out of eat other and sending billion dollar things into space, then there´d be enough money to produce enough food for everyone. An aircraft carrier, nimitz class, cost over 9 billion dollars, no wonder the US has 13 trillion in dept.

Originally posted by inimalist
cyanobacteria?

Almost always, and cyanobacteria isn't responsible for mass extinctions

Originally posted by The Dark Cloud

In the end humans really aren't special.


Which is exactly what I'm arguing.

Humans aren't separate from nature, we like any other animal make waves with whatever we do, but to argue that nature is naturally balanced is crap, if it were then going by your idea humans would never have gotten where they are now.

Originally posted by The Dark Cloud
Almost always, and cyanobacteria isn't responsible for mass extinctions

huh....

can't say I agree with that interpretation

🙂I don't so.

Is that a picture of your cock ring? thanks

Originally posted by 0mega Spawn
uhh... what

I said it is not full. 🙂

Nice title.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Which is exactly what I'm arguing.

Humans aren't separate from nature, we like any other animal make waves with whatever we do, but to argue that nature is naturally balanced is crap, if it were then going by your idea humans would never have gotten where they are now.

Actually humans are separate in one way from all known creatures in nature. We're aware of the long term impact that the things that we do have on them. Knowing that, when we refrain from considering even slight adjustments that benefit the other creatures, it equates to an almost malicious act of selfishness. If you've ever had something that you were growing eaten by animals then you can relate to how they feel when confronted with humanity's destructive force. We, unlike them, can adjust our destruction to levels that won't extinguish resources we're aware of. Not doing that when it won't harm you to conserve is an evil hypocritical act when you're aware of what you're doing.

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