Raikage and gai vs pain

Originally posted by King Kandy
You know, I thought this over a little more and I change my mind. Pain has dealt with sage mode and blocked jiraiya's fastest attack, he won't be at that much of a disadvantage. I think that if they use strategy they could keep the regenerating body alive and win over time.

Deva does not order them around at all, when has he ever done that? When Jiraiya fought him, it was not even Deva he talked to but the animal realm.

Originally posted by yungz22
Deva path told all of the bodies to move when he used super tensei.... He told the strategy to take when infiltrsting the village he also to them which formation to use when fighting naruto

No, he didn't. And one can easily argue that he was telling Konan that strategy, not his bodies. And no he didn't.

Thanks for playing. 😮

Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
No, he didn't. And one can easily argue that he was telling Konan that strategy, not his bodies. And no he didn't.

Thanks for playing. 😮

Yea i just looked i mistook him thinking instead of talking

Originally posted by yungz22
raikage and gai are way faster than naruto and jiraiya were at the time

Originally posted by King Kandy
Um, ok... I didn't say they were as fast as them, just that they have tools for dealing with super-speed opponents. Jiraiya's fastest attack was blocked without even trying, so I doubt even A will be able to overwhelm them with speed.

Originally posted by yungz22
What was jiraiyas fastest attack and seriously does it rank any where in speed with gai and raikages speed attacks

But it still lariat and gate attacks are faster so

Proof?

Raikage's speed is quite wanked. Suigetsu was shown perfectly able to react to it, as was Minato. Pain is closer in abilities to the latter by the way, so he should have no trouble. Now version 2(spikey hair mode) is probably a different story but said mode takes time to charge up. Pain can lightly kill him in said time.

Guy is pretty much the only threat here. And his Gates take time too. Not to mention, Chibaku Tensei would stomp both. Afternoon Tiger needs air and probably not a lot of air in a miniature moon.

Originally posted by yungz22
But it still lariat and gate attacks are faster so

Originally posted by King Kandy
I already said they were faster. My point was that Pain reacted easily to extremely fast attacks, so he can probably react (albeit with difficulty) to attacks on this level.

That makes know sense for example just because i can block your punch diesnt mean i can block a punch from Ali. The two punches are leagues different from one another. In order to guess something like that you need something more close to the latter.

When did Suigetsu actually react to A by the way?

Right here.

Granted, A wasn't running at the time but he was in his armor, not invisible to the naked eye, and Suigetsu intercepted him. Which means either Suigetsu saw him about to attack and blocked(possible) or saw him and Darui run into position and started to run to block them and only got there a tad after A did(possible).

Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
Right here.

Granted, A wasn't running at the time but he was in his armor, not invisible to the naked eye, and Suigetsu intercepted him. Which means either Suigetsu saw him about to attack and blocked(possible) or saw him and Darui run into position and started to run to block them and only got there a tad after A did(possible).

Must have been a really slow attack, if Raikage could get in a whole sentence, while shouting.
I hope you can get what I'm trying to clear up, and its not the idea that that attack of A's, was slow, which it obviously wasn't.
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We have a clear cut example of Suigetsu reacting, right here
So there is no dancing around it. Suigetsu can normally react to A in his Raiton Shroud, as can Minato, Sasuke, Bee, Juugo, Naruto, and any other character that is equal to or above any of them in terms of reflexes.

I'll also point out why Sasuke couldn't react to A when he used his Shroud to the max: he went around Sasuke instead of charging straight at him. I'm fairly certain Sasuke would have seen the counter-attack had A attacked him from the front.

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Must have been a really slow attack, if Raikage could get in a whole sentence, while shouting.
I hope you can get what I'm trying to clear up, and its not the idea that that attack of A's, was slow, which it obviously wasn't.
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I knew you'd say that you mother ****er!haermm

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
We have a clear cut example of Suigetsu reacting, right here
So there is no dancing around it. Suigetsu can normally react to A in his Raiton Shroud, as can Minato, Sasuke, Bee, Juugo, Naruto, and any other character that is equal to or above any of them in terms of reflexes.

Don't forget Gaara(kinda anyway). But yeah, just because he can be reacted to doesn't make it any less potent. Just means Pain shouldn't have any problems.

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
I'll also point out why Sasuke couldn't react to A when he used his Shroud to the max: he went around Sasuke instead of charging straight at him. I'm fairly certain Sasuke would have seen the counter-attack had A attacked him from the front.

Likely. We've never actually seen a sharingan user face A's speed at it's max but I don't think it is unreasonable to assume they could block it. But that was a nice intelligence feat for A. Attacking the enemy from behind! Smart...too bad it loses weight in comparison to what he did seconds later. 😛

They stopped attacks when A was stationary only people to avoid A's blitz attacks are sasuke and minato.

Assuming Pain is lined up like this

And Guy and Raikage are directly in front of him, that is 6 targets. One target has the ability to blow them both back with one attack and will know instantly if the other bodies are attacked and can react accordingly to said attack. Several characters have reacted to a non stationary Raikage so why Pain, who is leagues above most characters, couldn't is simply stupid. He can react, and he can kill A. Not a problem. In fact, he can simply use Chibaku Tensei at the start and they'd be screwed.

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
I'll also point out why Sasuke couldn't react to A when he used his Shroud to the max: he went around Sasuke instead of charging straight at him. I'm fairly certain Sasuke would have seen the counter-attack had A attacked him from the front.

Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
I knew you'd say that you mother ****er!haermm

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Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
Don't forget Gaara(kinda anyway). But yeah, just because he can be reacted to doesn't make it any less potent. Just means Pain shouldn't have any problems.

I suppose. His Sand is extremely fast now. Sasuke did also react to his Guillotine Drop as well.
Provided A charges straight at one of the bodies, like he usually does, yeah, Pain should be able to cope. That said, I see Pain getting surprised by A's speed at first, and possibly losing one body, but he should be accustomed to A's speed after that.

Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
Likely. We've never actually seen a sharingan user face A's speed at it's max but I don't think it is unreasonable to assume they could block it. But that was a nice intelligence feat for A. Attacking the enemy from behind! Smart...too bad it loses weight in comparison to what he did seconds later. 😛

Indeed. Though to be fair, he had to side-step Amaterasu.
Not a lot of people in Naruto like to try and blitz their opponent from their back. I think Sasuke, Lee & A are the only ones to do so.

Originally posted by King Kandy
Hmm, I don't know about that. Raikage was right in front of Sasuke when he used amaterasu, but was too fast for his eyes to follow. So the same could apply here.

There's a difference though. Sasuke would have a much easier time following an object travelling straight towards him at a blinding speed, than he would if said object travelled erratically around him.
It could also have been that Sasuke's eyes could follow A, but his head just could not turn around fast enough to keep up with A's circling.
A also tends to charge straight at his opponent(s), but this time, he had to side-step to avoid Amaterasu.

I still feel like raikage can at least take out 2 kage when hes in stage 2 raiton armor. What if gai and raikage attack at the same time will pein be abke to cope with a morning peacock or afternoon tiger while raikage does what he does