Parkers no slouch in durability, he's taken hits from Hulk. The lack of claws really hurt Wolverines damage output here.
Even if Logan can take more, a LOT more, Spidey has a pretty significant agility edge over him.
Enough to go against entire teams and do well, like the Fantastic Four and the Xmen (And a lot of what he did in those encounters could be done without his webbing, if not all of it, like webbing up Sue Richards)
True, but Spidey still can't really do anything to drop Logan here. With no webbing, he can't even take wins via incapicitation.
Claws lower Wolverine's damage output insofar as he can't one-shot Parker with one well placed blow. Adamantium-weighted blows are still going to take their toll on Spidey, and with no precog, chances are that he'll be feeling a lot of them.
Spidey's got the speed/mobility edge, but at some point, he's going to have to take the battle to Logan to land some blows. This battle doesn't favor him because he'd have to essentially wail on Logan for an extended period to drop him.
Originally posted by Harbinger
True, but Spidey still can't really do anything to drop Logan here. With no webbing, he can't even take wins via incapicitation.Claws lower Wolverine's damage output insofar as he can't one-shot Parker with one well placed blow. Adamantium-weighted blows are still going to take their toll on Spidey, and with no precog, chances are that he'll be feeling a lot of them.
Spidey's got the speed/mobility edge, but at some point, he's going to have to take the battle to Logan to land some blows. This battle doesn't favor him because he'd have to essentially wail on Logan for an extended period to drop him.
True, although Spidey's done ok against comparably reinforced characters.
But, any chance Spidey can take a few just flat out overpowering him? Wrestle him to the ground and wail on him or something?
Is it something he'd do in a comic for even 1 or 2 wins? (I remember him using a strangle hold on Fisk. That might not go well for Logan, unless he doesn't need to breath.)
Originally posted by cdtmIMO, Peter would have to cut loose to take some wins given the stips here. Then, he could potentially bull rush Logan and start wailing on him. But hell, even then it might not work given the skeleton. Wolvie's routinely taken blows from guys well above his weight class and not been KOed, so Spidey's nothing he hasn't dealt with before. Given that, I don't see Spidey being able to "overpower" Logan.
True, although Spidey's done ok against comparably reinforced characters.But, any chance Spidey can take a few just flat out overpowering him? Wrestle him to the ground and wail on him or something?
Is it something he'd do in a comic for even 1 or 2 wins? (I remember him using a strangle hold on Fisk. That might not go well for Logan, unless he doesn't need to breath.)
Btw does anyone have scans of people hurting themselves punching logan. I mean come on throwing a couple of shots to Logan's skull by a 10 tonner with an average durability lower than his output (which btw is hitting with much more force than 10 tons as it isn't a press lift) should break spidey's hand. The small Canadian takes it unless Spidey wants this to turn into a stalemate where he drops from exhaustion.
Spider-Man can strangle him. Logan is nowhere strong enough to free himself.
He can also throw Logan a few times against a wall. That will slow him down, and he can strangle him afterwards.
Or he places a bulldozer on him.
Lots of options actuall.
Really, Logan without his claws is nothing special, but Spider-Man without his web is still more dangerous.