U.S. in peace talks with Taliban, Afghan president says

Started by Rogue Jedi3 pages

What about all the independent contractors on the second Death Star when it exploded?

The Rebel Alliance were little more than terrorist. The "you're not an innocent civilian if you help the enemy in any fashion" line of Bin Laden's fit's here.

So any Country/Alliance that rises up and tries to unseat who is in power are terrorists then?

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
What about all the independent contractors on the second Death Star when it exploded?

all dead

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
So any Country/Alliance that rises up and tries to unseat who is in power are terrorists then?

No, didn't say that. Just pointing out that the Rebel Alliance had a like-mind of Osama's.

Do you think that guy who was hanging dry-wall in the Death Star (2) as a means to feed his family of six gave a shit about the political battle between the Empire and the Rebel Alliance? No, he was just making a living the best way he knew how. But the Rebel Alliance killed him for it.

Originally posted by Robtard
No, didn't say that. Just pointing out that the Rebel Alliance had a like-mind of Osama's.

Do you think that guy who was hanging dry-wall in the Death Star (2) as a means to feed his family of six gave a shit about the political battle between the Empire and the Rebel Alliance? No, he was just making a living the best way he knew how. But the Rebel Alliance killed him for it.

Wrong. Those contractors knew the risk involved.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
What about all the independent contractors on the second Death Star when it exploded?

And everyone who must have been killed by the debris.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
And everyone who must have been killed by the debris.
The Ewoks?

Originally posted by Robtard
No, didn't say that. Just pointing out that the Rebel Alliance had a like-mind of Osama's.

Do you think that guy who was hanging dry-wall in the Death Star (2) as a means to feed his family of six gave a shit about the political battle between the Empire and the Rebel Alliance? No, he was just making a living the best way he knew how. But the Rebel Alliance killed him for it.


Lol George Lucas actually addressed the Clerks reference in one of the commentaries.

He said the Empire probably used Geonosians...which I suppose is his way of saying it's alright because killing hive mind creatures is okay...or something.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Wrong. Those contractors knew the risk involved.

The same thing can be said when terrorist kill civilians. Unless you live under a rock, you're aware as an American that there are people/groups who want to attack America.

Get blown up on a plane, it's not the terrorist fault, you knew the risk flying.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Lol George Lucas actually addressed the Clerks reference in one of the commentaries.

He said the Empire probably used Geonosians...which I suppose is his way of saying it's alright because killing hive mind creatures is okay...or something.

No, GL was showing what an racist ass he really is.

In his mind. Geonosians = unskilled South of the border immigrants, aka "Mexicans".

Originally posted by inimalist
there is no single "taliban" entity, rather a number of tribal "Talibans"

talks with some, if successful, might only curb the violence. Much like in Gaza, there is now a culture of that sort of thing in NW Pakistan, and regardless of the government that is left in Kabul, these people will continue to attack, even if "Taliban" leaders tell them to stop.

Couldn't agree more with this. It will happen, U.S. peace talks or not.

It has been this way for generations and it is certaintly not going to stop now, (though the revolutions in the Arabic world are beginning to crack that mould)

inimalist, the reason those Blackhawks and minibirds were firing into those buildings is because they were taking fire from them. Would you actually just stay there and practically say to them 'kill me, kill me.' I've read the documentation from the battle and it states, the militia had taken over those buildings. Civilians casaulties were few because the entire friggen city was fighting including men, women and children. They were doped up on a drug called Khat.

You logic seems flawed to me. I guess the guys who flew the planes into WTC and Pentagon were freedom fighters. Guys who lop heads off with a machette in Iraq and Afghanistan and then post it on youtube are freedom fighters. Have you watched the documentary Firebase: Restrepo? al Qeada and the Taliban give $5 to boys and young men to fight for them. Are those freedom fighters or COWARDS!?

The Alamo, 60 actually escaped only to be captured by the Mexican Army and executed on Gen. Santa Anna's orders. Live today, fight tomorrow. Those 'freedom fighters' have been manipulated by cowardly men who refuse to fight themselves.

Karzai has a program to give jobs to taliban if they will defect. Apparently it is somewhat effective.

Originally posted by Darth Truculent
inimalist, the reason those Blackhawks and minibirds were firing into those buildings is because they were taking fire from them. Would you actually just stay there and practically say to them 'kill me, kill me.' I've read the documentation from the battle and it states, the militia had taken over those buildings. Civilians casaulties were few because the entire friggen city was fighting including men, women and children. They were doped up on a drug called Khat.

lol, khat is one of the mildest drugs there is and is a social activity in many countries... so that's basically like saying "that guy was having a cig, so obviously I had to kill him".

Not really, considering he made a point of saying that those people were actually shooting guns at US soldiers, the drugs being mild or not.

Originally posted by Darth Truculent
inimalist, the reason those Blackhawks and minibirds were firing into those buildings is because they were taking fire from them. Would you actually just stay there and practically say to them 'kill me, kill me.' I've read the documentation from the battle and it states, the militia had taken over those buildings. Civilians casaulties were few because the entire friggen city was fighting including men, women and children. They were doped up on a drug called Khat.

I find it really hard to believe that they were taking fire from the Palestine Hotel.

Originally posted by RE: Blaxican
Not really, considering he made a point of saying that those people were actually shooting guns at US soldiers, the drugs being mild or not.

No, he said that people from the building were shooting at them... but because of khat use, "the entire friggen city" could be considered their enemies.

Robert Gates said something on the Newshour about his belief that the Taliban could one day be turned into an ally against terrorist groups like Al Quaeda.

To me that just hearkens to the twilight years of the Roman Empire where they juggled barbarian tribes against one another and just ended up giving them the training and resources to pay back the Romans for playing them and abusing them.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Robert Gates said something on the Newshour about his belief that the Taliban could one day be turned into an ally against terrorist groups like Al Quaeda.

To me that just hearkens to the twilight years of the Roman Empire where they juggled barbarian tribes against one another and just ended up giving them the training and resources to pay back the Romans for playing them and abusing them.

Guess who trained Bin Laden.
Guess who armed Saddam.