Steve Rogers Vs Slade Wilson

Started by Silent Master20 pages
Originally posted by Marvelknight
In that book there's really nothing I would bring up in Lex's favor and I can't say I know them off the top of my head.

Well, if it's the one that Lex uses to fight Superman... wouldn't you be basically claiming that Slade has cl 100 strength, since Lex couldn't overpower him?

Originally posted by Silent Master
Well, if it's the one that Lex uses to fight Superman... wouldn't you be basically claiming that Slade has cl 100 strength, since Lex couldn't overpower him?

No Because I know Slade's not class 100...

Originally posted by Marvelknight
No Because I know Slade's not class 100...

Then why are you basing Slade being stronger on a feat that would require cl 100 strength?

Theirs plenty of feats/statements on panel/ratings that cleary put slade over cap in every physical category, not to mention just overall formiddability. All of which will just be tossed out for whatever reason any die hard cap/marvel fan to conjure up. If its too impressive, its PIS.(even if hes done it his entire history). If its anywhere close to debateable, it will be opposed. Theyll even try to tell you which kind of impressive feats you can use to debate. like if its strength, he has to be lifting or breaking etc.......koing or hurting the superdurable does count. Ive been through this many many times with the same few......it wouldnt matter what you showed them, because its not really about feats.

Originally posted by namorsubby
Theirs plenty of feats/statements on panel/ratings that cleary put slade over cap in every physical category, not to mention just overall formiddability. All of which will just be tossed out for whatever reason any die hard cap/marvel fan to conjure up. If its too impressive, its PIS.(even if hes done it his entire history). If its anywhere close to debateable, it will be opposed. Theyll even try to tell you which kind of impressive feats you can use to debate. like if its strength, he has to be lifting or breaking etc.......koing or hurting the superdurable does count. Ive been through this many many times with the same few......it wouldnt matter what you showed them, because its not really about feats.

What strength feats do you have in mind?

Originally posted by Silent Master
Then why are you basing Slade being stronger on a feat that would require cl 100 strength?

I'm not saying Slade has 100 ton strength, Silent Master. imo I don't even think that Lex could even use that power-suit to take on Superman head on in any real strength contest.

Originally posted by Silent Master
What strength feats do you have in mind?
Ignoring the fact that Slade is as strong as twenty men and has SUPERhuman strength while cap does not......

I have an entire thread. I took the time to post all of those feats somewhere for your viewing pleasure. do i really have to drag them here? Id post instances but i cant copy. Im posting from a phone and have no computer at the moment......its not even a smart phone.

Originally posted by namorsubby
Ignoring the fact that Slade is as strong as twenty men and has SUPERhuman strength while cap does not......

I have an entire thread. I took the time to post all of those feats somewhere for your viewing pleasure. do i really have to drag them here? Id post instances but i cant copy. Im posting from a phone and have no computer at the moment......its not even a smart phone.

If we are using statements as proof, I'm fairly sure that Cap has been stated to have the strength of half a platoon before.

Cap has superhuman strength.

Show me the scan then.....my statements in my thread.

And no....humans dont have superhuman strength.Cap is peak HUMAN. I really dont see how anyway can say that and actually believe it. But 2 or 3 posters have.

Originally posted by namorsubby
Show me the scan then.....my statements in my thread.

And no....humans dont have superhuman strength.Cap is peak HUMAN. I really dont see how anyway can say that and actually believe it. But 2 or 3 posters have.

No, Cap is superhuman.

While I think Slade wins, I definitely consider Steve to be superhuman.

Originally posted by namorsubby
Show me the scan then.....my statements in my thread.

And no....humans dont have superhuman strength.Cap is peak HUMAN. I really dont see how anyway can say that and actually believe it. But 2 or 3 posters have.

All I know is that it was stated in the Invaders.

Steve has been interpreted as superhuman by ed brubaker. His own interpretation of "peak of human potential" has spread like wildfire and become comic law in the mind of some.

With that being said, according to original intent and normal potrayal, Cap is not superhuman.

This is where some would say "but then why does he do all those things that humans cant actual do on a consistent basis Namorsubby".....while theres actually a simple explanation for that. Its because whats humanly posssible in comicbooks has never ever been a reality in.....well, reality. Name any grade a well known human superhero fromany comic company who doesnt perform some "superhuman" feat every issue. If caps a meta, batmans a meta. Nightwing too. Might as well add punisher, elektra, etc etc etc. They all do what we cant in real life.

Cap isn't superhuman

Nope, he's superhuman.

Originally posted by Silent Master
All I know is that it was stated in the Invaders.
I believe a platoon can be as small as 8 men(maybe 16). I looked it up once when someone brought this up. There are normal men in the world that have a bench press max equal to 4 average men.

A platoon is between 16 and 50 men.

So we have a definite statement vs an indefinite one. one that might even have been hyperbole. One that has not even been presented.

The Slade statment isn't a definite statement either, as the strength level of the men aren't mentioned.