Originally posted by Q99
She totally could. Cheetah's speedblitzed Superman and Wonder Woman, and also fought with the Flash just fine.And aside from that, Cheetah is easily the strongest and toughest one here.
Superman, Wonderwoman... not impressed, they tend to forget about their speed.
Flash? OK, that is something.
Psylocke should take care of her. Grodd's TP ain't that formidable last time I checked, he wouldn't be able to do much damage in that time.
edit: Like always, everything depends on the match-ups.
Originally posted by Konton
At his best, Grodd was able to control Swamp Thing so...
Reconnt? Crisis?
Swamp Thing Vol 2. Annual #3 was post crisis.
I'll agree that he's been kinda flimsy in showings lately, but that's only because he's a flash villain and his telepathy can be "outrun" and he has to rely on physicality.
Took place post-crisis. Grodd mind controls Swamp Thing and drives him crazy. Then he proceeded to take over the minds of nearly every single gorilla in Africa (and, going by the Wolverine camp's analysis, animals are harder to control than people...), and THEN reached out and took control of Monsieur Mallah, Sam Simeon, Congorilla, the Gorilla Boss of Gotham, and B’wana Beast’s friend Djuba- all of which were scattered across the globe. All without prep or aid.As the story went, and if Grodd would have managed to seize the powers of nature, he would have become omnipotent. The ritual he had to perform backfired or whatever, but everyone he was controlling snapped back to themselves without any idea of what had happened to themselves. Swamp Thing included.
I covered this in the Grodd vs Wolverine thread.
Non-jobbing Grodd should rape.
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Psylocke should take care of her. Grodd's TP ain't that formidable last time I checked, he wouldn't be able to do much damage in that time.edit: Like always, everything depends on the match-ups.
Impressive of Psylocke, being able to do 2 things at once... I don't think Psylocke could take her out mentally before Cheetah got to her (Cheetah's a god, who tend not to be the easiest to affect mentally), but while fighting Grodd telepathically at the same time? That is impressive 😉
So yea, basically Cheetah turns this into a very one-sided matchup.
Originally posted by Q99
Impressive of Psylocke, being able to do 2 things at once... I don't think Psylocke could take her out mentally before Cheetah got to her (Cheetah's a god, who tend not to be the easiest to affect mentally), but while fighting Grodd telepathically at the same time? That is impressive 😉So yea, basically Cheetah turns this into a very one-sided matchup.
What I meant was that Grodd wouldn't pay attention to her, but to her teammates. At least in the scenario I made up.
Didn't Batman put Cheetah in her place?
Originally posted by Konton
Reconnt? Crisis?Swamp Thing Vol 2. Annual #3 was post crisis.
I'll agree that he's been kinda flimsy in showings lately, but that's only because he's a flash villain and his telepathy can be "outrun" and he has to rely on physicality.
I covered this in the Grodd vs Wolverine thread.
Non-jobbing Grodd should rape.
Originally posted by King Castleimpressive that Gorilla Grodd ape link allowed him to manipulate his fellow apes, as impressive as Lizards and vermin's own TP but how that working similarly to logan doesnt translate the same to manipulating Wolverine.
nice attempt to slip the ape link passed us.
also consistency matters.
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
What I meant was that Grodd wouldn't pay attention to her, but to her teammates. At least in the scenario I made up.Didn't Batman put Cheetah in her place?
There have been some writers who have no idea that she's supposed to be a goddess, but far more consistent showings that make it clear that no, she's way out of that league (to state the obvious; she takes hits from Wonder Woman. Black Lightning's lightning at full doesn't KO her. Etc.).
The Secret Six 'fought' her, and their response was basically "We're screwed," and she kicked their asses without superspeed, just pwning them at normal speed. Bane attacks, she shoves Bane through the wall. They escaped only by tricking a high-powered villain to attack her.
This is Cheetah vs street levelers.
