If Obiwan was faster...

Started by queeq2 pages

Exactly. But he is in good company: Indy was also screwed by George.

George has quite the record, really. It's actually quite impressive.

Indeed.

Why isn't the assumption that he was running fast.. but we just didn't view it that way on the screen?

Because that would be making (piss-poor) excuses for a film that doesn't deserve it.

I mean, you could assume things on film are seen from a Jedi POV - that is, that things are actually happening really quickly (such as the duels), but we see it from a Force sensitive POV so it 'slows down,' if that makes any sense.

I actually believe that's the case for the Jedi vs. Sith fight scenes. Still, for this thread however, why Kenobi didn't use Force Speed is a plot hole or the laser doors would have sliced him.

The POV fights throughout the EU are bothersome. It's always written to conform with that character's standards, so the overall consistency gets skewed. It's why the film fights are more funner; if they show it slow, it's slow. Tough.

Why did the Emperor keep his lightning on when Vader picked him up?

Why do all of the multi-person duels in the PT not end up in a landslide victory for the multi-party team (cause one person could easily just use TK to cause the "bad guy's" saber to falter, ever so slightly, causing the bad guy's head to get cut off).

Here's why: giving people magical powers and then writing a movie about them is going to create plotholes no matter how hard you try and fix it.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Here's why: giving people magical powers and then writing a movie about them is going to create plotholes no matter how hard you try and fix it.
Some are easier than others to fix--the speedy running that gets used once and never again, for example. The simple answer is that Lucas has no foresight.

There's some irony in there somewhere...

Hehehe

Hahahaha lol.

I guess he was tired... Nah, it's Lucas forgetting Jedi powers.

He wanted to open TPM scene showing that Jedi are super powerful.

There was another instance of super speed. Luke's really fast leap in ESB. So that's one showing per trilogy Lol.

But still because it has been shown more than once, I'm going with the fights being from the Jedi POV.

Originally posted by queeq
Err... not really. Wasn;t this fight called the Duel of the Fates? Wasn't QGJ's death the cause of Anakin's fall? So Anakin falls to the dark side because a door doesn't open and OB1 decides not to force run...

I didn't see this post. Yes, I agree. Had Qui Gon been around, I don't think Anakin would have fallen.

Qui-Gon would have shown a lot more care in raising/training Anakin. Obi-Wan just let him do whatever.

Also, Obi-Wan pretty much jogged his way over to Maul and Qui-Gon; if he'd picked up the pace a bit, he wouldn't have gotten stopped by the doors which would have indeed killed him since he didn't have the Force abilities needed to get through them.

Originally posted by queeq
Err... not really. Wasn;t this fight called the Duel of the Fates? Wasn't QGJ's death the cause of Anakin's fall? So Anakin falls to the dark side because a door doesn't open and OB1 decides not to force run...

This. The whole point of the fight wasn't for Maul to survive, it was to kill QGJ so OB1 would teach Anakin. OB1, who was more "emotional", not in touch with the living force as much as QGJ. If you watch the choreography of the fight closely, Maul just keeps pushing OB1 out of the fight, never really trying to attack him directly. Maul aggressively goes after QGJ, whose face reflects the ferocity of Maul's attacks, far too much for him to handle alone. So whether it was laser fields or another "doorway", Maul would've kept OB1 out of the fight because he was meant to survive per Palaptine's plan. Maul was another lackey of Sidius sacrificed (like Dooku) to pave the way for Anakin to become his ultimate apprentice.