YuLaw/Gabe Law versus Selene and Michael

Started by Robtard4 pages

The Asians aren't being touched by the supernaturals. They move so fast bullets look slow and sluggish; they're also far better H2H fighters. Giving them weapons here was near spite.

Supernaturals go down via a combo of punches, kicks, bullets and dismemberment. Though they could likely just blitz and ventilate craniums for a fast and easy win and then go out for a bowl of noodle.

the laws are law here, they won't have much of a problem

Originally posted by Robtard
The Asians aren't being touched by the supernaturals. They move so fast bullets look slow and sluggish; they're also far better H2H fighters. Giving them weapons here was near spite.

Supernaturals go down via a combo of punches, kicks, bullets and dismemberment. Though they could likely just blitz and ventilate craniums for a fast and easy win and then go out for a bowl of noodle.

Mhm...Mhm....Mmmmmmmhm.........

So, have you seen the Underworld movies? Good stuff. There's a scene where a weakened Michael takes 20ish bullets before it even slowed him down. Then there's the scene where he gets a big ass hole punched in his chest. Then there's the part where Selene tanks a point blank shotgun blast. Then there's the part where Marcus stabs her THROUGH the chest with his talon, and she doesn't even blink. She broke it off, pulled it out, and stabbed him in the face with it. See, the Law's can unload an entire clip into Selene and Michael and it would barely faze them.

Not to mention, not to MENTION, dude, that the Law's can both be killed by a single bullet or claw swipe. They're too fragile.

Selene and Michael? Too damn hard to kill. Bullets? Take too many. H2H? Don't make me laugh, the Law's won't even bruise them H2H. Swords? The Law's have no sword feats.

So what we have here are two hybrids that are:

Just as fast if not faster than the Law's.

Just as strong as the Law's.

FAR tougher than the Law's. Their damage soak is ridiculous.

OMG blocked just blocked

I haven't watched Underworld, but one thing that seems neglected in this thread about the Laws is that if 1 dies, the other absorbs his power and becomes more of a badass anyway. The movie also suggested that if only 1 of them remains, it could mean the end of the world or he becomes god-like.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
I'm going with Selene and Michael. WAY too much damage soak there, close to if not equal speed, same for strength.
I agree, they have great damage soak.

Originally posted by Myth
I haven't watched Underworld, but one thing that seems neglected in this thread about the Laws is that if 1 dies, the other absorbs his power and becomes more of a badass anyway. The movie also suggested that if only 1 of them remains, it could mean the end of the world or he becomes god-like.
That was just them guessing. No one knew what would happen.

Originally posted by thanos-prime
I agree, they have great damage soak.
have you even seen the one? -_-

yulaw rapes viciously hard.
and damage soak doesn't mean shyt since yulaw or gabe could EASILY close the distance on them & blow their brains away.
which neither can come back or regenerate from.

have you even seen the one? -_-
Yes, i may be forgetting some of the things they did but i remember the gist of what they did.

yulaw rapes viciously hard.
Yulaw being the more vicious of the 2 would fight michael since michael would be the first to engage being that he's faster than selene and yulaw would never hit him michael has porting speed.

and damage soak doesn't mean shyt since yulaw or gabe could EASILY close the distance on them & blow their brains away.
As i said above michael is to fast for this, and this is not a method i see Gabe using he would attempt to go hand to hand or wound her with a gun shot which won't stop her.

which neither can come back or regenerate from.
Luckily they wouldn't have to and if gabe were to kill selene michael would go bat shit crazy and chop them up.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
That was just them guessing. No one knew what would happen.

The point remains that killing 1 doesn't necessarily mean it will be easy to finish off the other 1, because that other one will instantly become better.

Bloodlusted Michael.....*shudders*

Let's go over this again...

Durability. FF to 2:49

YouTube video

Selene jumps off a 500 foot building. She lands on her feet and walks away. This fall would have killed YuLaw. Then there was Michael soaking up dozens of machine gun rounds in the woods. Then there's Selene tanking Marcus stabbing her through the chest. And again, Michael's chest was tore open by Marcus and he regenned.

Durability? Michael and Selene are juggernauts compared to the Law's, who can be killed by one bullet, by one claw swipe, they can be killed as easily as we can.

Here:

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Check out Michael stopping a moving truck.

Check out Selene bullet dodging, moving at YuLaw speed, tanking a point blank shotgun blast. Dig it:

FF to :37

YouTube video

There we have it, porting speed!!! So yes, Selene and Michael are just as fast if not faster than the Law's.

Check out Michael having his chest opened by Marcus.

Need I remind you guys that Michael punches holes clean through the chests of Lycans? Or that he has a habit of ripping their heads off?

Originally posted by 0mega Spawn
have you even seen the one? -_-

yulaw rapes viciously hard.
and damage soak doesn't mean shyt since yulaw or gabe could EASILY close the distance on them & blow their brains away.
which neither can come back or regenerate from.

Head shot? crylaugh Don't make me laugh, dude. Remember when Selene unloaded in Marcus's face and all it did was piss him off? Yeah.....And since Michael is as strong as Marcus, and Selene, after drinking the blood of Corvinus, is also as strong as Marcus......Well.....

Didn't see that coming, didja?

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Nah. That'd be like disallowing force speed in a Jedi thread.

My theory is that Michael jumped over Viktor as Viktor had his head lowered and landed silently.

And you assume that I don't think force speed should be thrown out, as well?

HA!

Force speed is about as useless as any other uber ability seen in the movies.

IF force speed was used even more than once...it would have eliminated several moments of PIS. As it stands..it was used once...can only be used once...and can only be used in a straight line. Else they not use it in the MANY other situations in which it could have been useful?

Exactly.

This is why the "porting" ability of Mike is useless as well.

Well if you wanna go that route, let's really get into it:

When Delroy Lindo was pounding away on YuLaw, why didn't Law speed blitz out of it?

When Statham had YuLaw at gunpoint, why didn't YuLaw speed blitz out of the line of fire?

Michael showing porting speed is a legit feat. Just as legit as YuLaw bullet dodging.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Well if you wanna go that route, let's really get into it:

You just incorrectly assume that I don't run parallel in my beliefs.

That's your problem.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
When Delroy Lindo was pounding away on YuLaw, why didn't Law speed blitz out of it?

Retarded PIS.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
When Statham had YuLaw at gunpoint, why didn't YuLaw speed blitz out of the line of fire?/B]

Retarded PIS.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
[B]Michael showing porting speed is a legit feat. Just as legit as YuLaw bullet dodging.

NOPE!

It's retarded PIS that was not shown in any of the other movies, was not useful in the end against Viktor which proves that it probably wasn't porting, and the other stuff I mentioned.

Originally posted by dadudemon
You just incorrectly assume that I don't run parallel in my beliefs.

That's your problem.

K.

Retarded PIS.

Retarded PIS.

Coming from the man who agreed with me that PIS and CIS should always be turned on, that it makes versus threads more true to the character.

NOPE!

It's retarded PIS that was not shown in any of the other movies, was not useful in the end against Viktor which proves that it probably wasn't porting, and the other stuff I mentioned.

Or it could be that Michael was a newborn and not fully accustomed to his powers.

No, it wasn't porting, never claimed that. Point is, he moved so fast it appeared to be teleporting. Like a Twivamp. Not as fast as a Twivamp, but still.

And if you still aren't convinced, it's up to me, the thread starter, to say if it counts as a feat or not, according to MVF rules. So.......It counts as a feat.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Mhm...Mhm....Mmmmmmmhm.........

So, have you seen the Underworld movies? Good stuff. There's a scene where a weakened Michael takes 20ish bullets before it even slowed him down. Then there's the scene where he gets a big ass hole punched in his chest. Then there's the part where Selene tanks a point blank shotgun blast. Then there's the part where Marcus stabs her THROUGH the chest with his talon, and she doesn't even blink. She broke it off, pulled it out, and stabbed him in the face with it. See, the Law's can unload an entire clip into Selene and Michael and it would barely faze them.

Not to mention, not to MENTION, dude, that the Law's can both be killed by a single bullet or claw swipe. They're too fragile.

Selene and Michael? Too damn hard to kill. Bullets? Take too many. H2H? Don't make me laugh, the Law's won't even bruise them H2H. Swords? The Law's have no sword feats.

So what we have here are two hybrids that are:

Just as fast if not faster than the Law's.

Just as strong as the Law's.

FAR tougher than the Law's. Their damage soak is ridiculous.

Have you seen The One? Not great, but the feats are uber. Great, the majority of those damage-taking feats won't matter shit cos the Law's have weapons specifically suited to harm the supernaturals. Sunlight and silver. That and decapitation via sword.

They're not as fast or faster, they're much slower. The Laws make bullets look slow, we have several examples of their speed throughout the film.(you should really watched that clip Omega posted)

Strength, that's arguable, but probably close. Michael might be above the rest.

The super-naturals are tougher, but again, the Law's have weapons that exploit their opponents weakness. Add the the Asians aren't being touched. Game over for the super-naturals.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Coming from the man who agreed with me that PIS and CIS should always be turned on, that it makes versus threads more true to the character.

Wrong. I specified that it should be up to the thread starter and unless otherwise specified, the characters act in character.

That's not "PIS" being turned on. That's CIS.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Or it could be that Michael was a newborn and not fully accustomed to his powers.

Which is exactly why we never saw him "porting" again. Thanks for proving my point.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
No, it wasn't porting, never claimed that. Point is, he moved so fast it appeared to be teleporting. Like a Twivamp. Not as fast as a Twivamp, but still.

STFU and GTFO.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
There we have it, porting speed!!!
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Michael showing porting speed is a legit feat. Just as legit as YuLaw bullet dodging.

And if you think this is some sort of word game where you must distinguish between "porting speed" and "wasn't porting", also GTFO and find something better to argue about. You're just looking for something to argue about, at this point. Stop it.

I put "porting" in quotes note once, but twice. If you haven't figured out by now that me putting "porting" in quotes is meaning something other than a direct interpretation, then you need to brush up on your reading skills.

More specifically, since I actually DID write it completely out, you're just being an ass:

Originally posted by dadudemon
I motion to throw out the seemingly "porting" speed ...

Again, STFU.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
And if you still aren't convinced, it's up to me, the thread starter, to say if it counts as a feat or not, according to MVF rules. So.......It counts as a feat.

Originally posted by dadudemon
I motion to throw out the seemingly "porting" speed of Michael as it was never seen again in all of the series, provided little to no advantage over Viktor, and amounts to a visual effect for "coolness" rather than functionality.

I was the original "user" of that porting but it really isn't standing the test of time.

BTW - I'll never be convinced for reasons I've already outlined.

Originally posted by thanos-prime
Yes, i may be forgetting some of the things they did but i remember the gist of what they did.

Yulaw being the more vicious of the 2 would fight michael since michael would be the first to engage being that he's faster than selene and yulaw would never hit him michael has porting speed.

As i said above michael is to fast for this, and this is not a method i see Gabe using he would attempt to go hand to hand or wound her with a gun shot which won't stop her.

Luckily they wouldn't have to and if gabe were to kill selene michael would go bat shit crazy and chop them up.

1. michael isnt faster than yulaw WTF are you talking about?
even if michael teleported (which was not shown)doesn't make him faster than yulaw. can he punch faster? no. can he run faster? no. can he casually smack/dodge bullets? no... yulaw GREATLY OVERWHELMS michael in speed.

gabe could EASILY go h2h with them faster, stronger, and clearly the better fighter.

and michael and selene cannot heal from a headshot

and michael chopping up yulaw & gabe? 😆