Annoying stereotypes in comicbooks

Started by Scoobless2 pages

Originally posted by Simbon
I agree on The Great Ten -- could have been much better, especially considering the material there is to draw on.

It's a matter of numbers, though. There should be four times as many Chinese heroes as American heroes.

Yeah, but comics are bought by people who relate to the characters and all the market research tells the big companies that people relate more to characters with similar backgrounds to them and who look like them ... though I'm not sure that most male american comic readers have zero body fat physiques and cut from marble jaw lines.

Originally posted by Simbon
The portrayal of Hulking is accurate, IMO -- Homosexuality is such an all-consuming sin that it leaves little room for other aspects of the personality; that's why French communists invented it, so they could weaken America by having minorities smuggle it in like a virus. All of this, according to my dog, was engineered by the evil genius Michel Foucault:

The french invented pedastry, get your damn facts straight uhuh

Originally posted by Bentley
The french invented pedastry, get your damn facts straight uhuh

They invented democracy, existentialism, and the Ménage à Trois.

Originally posted by basilisk
They invented democracy

Whaa?

Not only is that not true, but France is on its Fifth Republic right now because they don't understand it. 😛

Originally posted by Simbon
One form of discrimination in comic books that doesn't seem to come up is the fact that, despite having a much, much larger population than the west, south and east asia seem relatively incapable of producing superheroes. You have a very small number of Chinese and Japanese supers, but on a per capita basis China has less than most small American towns. And what about India? You'd think Marvel and DC would have some cool Indian superheroes, like Nagraj...
they barely have and black/asian/latin/etc characters from america as it is (and the ones they had were pretty stereotypically ultra ethnic versions (giant-sized x-men)), expanding to other continents is a tough call for average white guys from the US to write. they write what they know, i wouldn't expect guys back in the 70's grasping the intricacies of the culture of some indian teens...

it might be better that it never happened.

Originally posted by Bentley
The french invented pedastry, get your damn facts straight uhuh
Also croissants. Dont forget croissants.

French have taken credit for so many things they didn't make.

French fries for instance. uhuh

French kissing too.

Originally posted by Scoobless
Yeah, but comics are bought by people who relate to the characters and all the market research tells the big companies that people relate more to characters with similar backgrounds to them and who look like them ... though I'm not sure that most male american comic readers have zero body fat physiques and cut from marble jaw lines.

As an Asgardian Thunder God, it's the only reason I read Thor... Because I identify with him so well.

Originally posted by Simbon
One form of discrimination in comic books that doesn't seem to come up is the fact that, despite having a much, much larger population than the west, south and east asia seem relatively incapable of producing superheroes. You have a very small number of Chinese and Japanese supers, but on a per capita basis China has less than most small American towns. And what about India? You'd think Marvel and DC would have some cool Indian superheroes, like Nagraj...

This, I always thought this was incredibly stupid. I'd like to see a team of international heroes, but the problem is that every time this has been attempted, the characters are just stereotypes representing their country.

Originally posted by Grecian poet
As an Asgardian Thunder God, it's the only reason I read Thor... Because I identify with him so well.

Exactly.

🙂

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I understand what Sam tries to say... In fact. when Darkstar and Winter Guard were written I went so far as personally contacted author on CBR and gave him links to forums of Russian comic geeks - to minimize collateral damage or at least MAKE HIM DO SOME DAMN RESEARCH about what a patronymic is, for example (do they f*ck Icelandic patronymics in the same way, I'd like to know).

However, for example, I'm not Morrisson hater for him putting the only female superhero from Minsk to date on the bus (and by the way, if Laynia is a misspelling for Lana done by some retarded Silver Age writer, my real name is the same as the one of her - Lana (short of Svetlana) is a popular Belarusian girl's name, Laynia is the same kind of imagined name as Lilandra - except that it's given not to alien, but to the Earthling girl from real country).

The only great name f*ck up with Chinese/Coreans I'm aware of is that surname goes first in their traditional naming hence Americans often confuse first and last name (and we get something like Swift's comrades in arms in the Authority always calling her by surname).

Stereotypes never die. But at least the research on small things like real world names and rules of naming makes the character more plausible.

It's far more realistic to imagine that some small sect of Buddhists believe in angels than swallow up the constant mixing of first name and last name.

Nowadays in the age of wiki it's not that hard to make such idiotic errors that, honestly, offend me more than "Dirty Commies" for Russia, "Adventuring aristocrats" for Britain (in alternate universe USSR could have the same "communism in name only" as real world China and it's known practice for many public figures of Britain to get knighted - Sir Alex Fergusson, I'm looking at you) etc.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
French have taken credit for so many things they didn't make.

French fries for instance. uhuh

Napoleon stole those so we could use them uhuh

Originally posted by Bentley
Napoleon stole those so we could use them uhuh

😂

Yes, it is a little known fact that the French fry was originally Egyptian -- that's also why they sometimes appear in Falafels.

Speaking of Napoleon, that reminds me of the bizarre tradition of forgetting all of France's military conquests in order to make y'all out to be born for surrender.

Originally posted by King Kandy
This, I always thought this was incredibly stupid. I'd like to see a team of international heroes, but the problem is that every time this has been attempted, the characters are just stereotypes representing their country.

Yeah, it's really unfortunate. Even in Great Ten, where it was Chinese heroes vs Chinese villains, the clichés were thicker than pea soup (I'll admit that I did like the Accomplished Perfect Physician's powerset, though; and if there was enough prep time, Mother of Champions could be hugely useful in a tournament where dupes aren't allowed). Writers need to read more and suck less.

and if there was enough prep time, Mother of Champions could be hugely useful in a tournament where dupes aren't allowed
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Independent summons are not allowed as well in those kinds, so no Camino clones rush.

Originally posted by Charlotte DeBel
and if there was enough prep time, Mother of Champions could be hugely useful in a tournament where dupes aren't allowed
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Independent summons are not allowed as well in those kinds, so no Camino clones rush.

Really? I imagine there must be some tournaments where summoning/constructs are allowed but dupes aren't -- if I were running a tournament that is probably what I would do.