Originally posted by kgkgI haven't made up my mind on it
Do you think Zoom can beat Galactus?
I do have a hard time seeing how Galactus could beat Zoom though...and nobody has posited anything beyond 'he should because he's galactus', which is a poor form of debating that is neither refutable nor productive
Originally posted by Wodenson
Galactus could not move fast enough to save Nova in SS vol. 3 #1. He had to make a deal with the Silver Surfer.
Which was pure PIS; so you really believe that he can give a herald one-one millionth of his power (and thats exactly what the Surfer is stated to have on panel) and be capable of moving FTL, but Galactus simply cant...
Dude, PIS, PIS, PIS....
Originally posted by Starscream MWhat is making it hard for you? lack of speed feat from Galactus?
I haven't made up my mind on itI do have a hard time seeing how Galactus could beat Zoom though...and nobody has posited anything beyond 'he should because he's galactus', which is a poor form of debating that is neither refutable nor productive
So how is anyone suppose to beat Zoom Skyfather+ and abstract have no speed feat.
Originally posted by Starscream M
so he's never shown superspeed. glad you admit it.and yes, I do really want to argue he's incapable of moving FTL....considering he's never done so, and the countless times he's been hit by attacks that he would dodge if he did have FTL speed.
PIS, PIS, PIS, PIS...
I dont care if he's never been shown to use superspeed; his heralds (who are but a tiny fraction of what Galactus is) have it...and it makes no sense for him to be incapable of it.
I repeat, no PIS in a forum fight; sans PIS, Galactus should be able to move every bit as fast as Zoom can...
Originally posted by TheLordofMurderNo PIS does not mean Galactus gets powers he's never shown
PIS, PIS, PIS, PIS...I dont care if he's never been shown to use superspeed; his heralds (who are but a tiny fraction of what Galactus is) have it...and it makes no sense for him to be incapable of it.
I repeat, no PIS in a forum fight; sans PIS, Galactus should be able to move every bit as fast as Zoom can...
I mean by your logic, Galactus should have the powers of every being lower than him then, which is ridiculous
Originally posted by Starscream M
No PIS does not mean Galactus gets powers he's never shownI mean by your logic, Galactus should have the powers of every being lower than him then, which is ridiculous
Galactus should be capable of replicating almost any feat (while well fed that is); he's an extreme matter/energy manipulator...
At high levels, there is virtually no difference between extreme matter/energy manip and reality warping, so yeah...MINUS PIS...there should be exceedingly little he is incapable of.
Originally posted by Wodenson
You can't claim PIS on everything you don't like. If Galactus could do everything his heralds could, he wouldn't need them. The Surfer has been stated ON PANEL to have greater speed and navigational abilities than Galactus.
And that makes complete sense to you and doesnt scream BS....
LoL....
By you guys logic, the Living Tribunal, Order, Chaos, Love, and Hate (since they've never demostrated superspeed) are incapable of it...
LoL...
Common sense; a satiated Galactus one of the major forces in the universe and all of those major universal beings are in that "near infinite" class of power...
Its asinine to try and argue that they are incapable of moving FTL because they've never done so on panel...
Originally posted by Starscream M
none of those entities have shown vulnerability to physical harm as far as I know
But those beings logically should be able to move FTL...shouldnt they?
And without PIS, Galactus should be able to do so too...and without his speed advantage, Galactus Spites Zoom dead every single time without effort.