Thor vs Wonder Woman

Originally posted by Silent Master
Or, he could just hit her in the face with Mjolnir.

Originally posted by h1a8
Amazons are naturally strong, far stronger than normal women. That is why I say if they fought without comic logic (Batman performing feats beyond human strength) then she wins. But if we apply real world logic then Thor wins.

Also Thor is only 640lb when powered. He is about 250lb or less without powers.

wonder woman "without powers" is a slab of clay if you want to get stupid about it

Originally posted by psycho gundam
what the hell are you talking about?

wonder woman "without powers" is a slab of clay if you want to get stupid about it

Originally posted by h1a8
Amazons are naturally strong, far stronger than normal women. That is why I say if they fought without comic logic (Batman performing feats beyond human strength) then she wins. But if we apply real world logic then Thor wins.

Also Thor is only 640lb when powered. He is about 250lb or less without powers.

Where exactly are you getting that Thor is only 250 when unpowered?

Originally posted by h1a8
Amazons are naturally strong, far stronger than normal women. That is why I say if they fought without comic logic (Batman performing feats beyond human strength) then she wins. But if we apply real world logic then Thor wins.

So..according to you when they're depowered for condition 1, WW gets to be a standard Amazonian but Thor doesn't get to be a standard Asgardian?

Or are you saying that a random Amazonian > random Asgardian?

Originally posted by Cogito
So..according to you when they're depowered for condition 1, WW gets to be a standard Amazonian but Thor doesn't get to be a standard Asgardian?

Or are you saying that a random Amazonian > random Asgardian?

Originally posted by Silent Master
Where exactly are you getting that Thor is only 250 when unpowered?

Lastly, if we let Thor keep his weight and allow him to have only average human strength then we would be too weak to carry his weight around. He would be so slow that he would get tagged right and left with pressure points and such.

Given Thor's size, he'd be over 300lbs as he's drawn noticeably taller and larger than Captain America who is 240lbs. BTW, this is comics where Kingpin weighs 450 pounds and doesn't have any trouble moving around and being fast enough to tag Daredevil and Spider-man on occasion.

So Thor weighing that much would be an advantage, not a disadvantage.

When Thor's powerless, he still possesses strength far above the average human, and he doesn't seem to lose any mass or weight, either.

Diana in the first, 7-8/10.
Diana in the second, 6/10.
Thor in the third, 8/10.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
When Thor's powerless, he still possesses strength far above the average human, and he doesn't seem to lose any mass or weight, either.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
When Thor's powerless, he still possesses strength far above the average human, and he doesn't seem to lose any mass or weight, either.

Originally posted by h1a8
A standard Asgardian can lift anywhere from 30-100+ tons.
That wouldn't be fair. If Thor keeps his weight but has the strength of an average man then he would be too heavy to even move around.

IMO, powerless means he doesn't have any Asgardian attributes. They are naturally heavy and strong (tonnage).
So wouldn't powerless mean take away there natural strength and weight? Given Thor's build he should be around 250lbs. That seems fair to me.

Lastly, if we let Thor keep his weight and allow him to have only average human strength then we would be too weak to carry his weight around. He would be so slow that he would get tagged right and left with pressure points and such.

So you are saying that Thor becomes human, with the strength of someone his size and build, yet WW becomes an Amazonian? Whose strength and speed are significantly greater than an average human?

You're losing me here. If Thor becomes human, with the strength and speed of someone his size and build, then WW should become human, with the strength and speed of a woman her size and build.

Originally posted by h1a8
I don't recall Donald Blake or Jake Olsen having super strength. Where do you get this from?

What do Donald Blake or Jake Olsen have to do with this?

Originally posted by h1a8
I don't recall Donald Blake or Jake Olsen having super strength. Where do you get this from?

Thor's human hosts =/= Thor.

They're separate entities which occasionally have had their spirits bound to Thor himself. And Thor's been depowered or restricted from using his powers plenty of times for us to gage his strength level, which is at least peak human.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Thor's human hosts =/= Thor.

They're separate entities which occasionally have had their spirits bound to Thor himself. And Thor's been depowered or restricted from using his powers plenty of times for us to gage his strength level, which is at least peak human.

Originally posted by Cogito
So you are saying that Thor becomes human, with the strength of someone his size and build, yet WW becomes an Amazonian? Whose strength and speed are significantly greater than an average human?

You're losing me here. If Thor becomes human, with the strength and speed of someone his size and build, then WW should become human, with the strength and speed of a woman her size and build.

How strong should a powerless Thor and WW be?

On a level of 1-10 give both Diana and Thor some strength rankings.
Because having one far stronger than the other makes this spite.

A powerless Thor is comparable in many ways to Captain America. Saying he's peak human or better is very accurate. He actually has a number of feats such as taking out an egyptian god who had somewhere between 20-50 tons of Superstrength. Okay maybe that's his highest powerless feat and he went totally psycho on the beat down. WM Powerless Thor 🙂

Originally posted by h1a8
Well, the problem occurs because Thor doesn't truly have a powerless personal (other than Donald Blake and Jake Olson). He is naturally strong because he is an Asgardian. So powerless for him would either mean no control of the weather/lightning or just Donald Blake. A typical Asgardian can lift more than 30 tons. This wouldn't be a fair figh

How strong should a powerless Thor and WW be?

On a level of 1-10 give both Diana and Thor some strength rankings.
Because having one far stronger than the other makes this spite.

Donald Blake isn't a powerless Thor, he was a human alter ego created by Odin...you should know this.

Wonder Woman in 1 and 2.

Thor in 3.

I actually agree with h1a8's general line of argumentation here. for a depowered fight, it makes sense to cap them both at peak humans - give thor the basic stats of CA and Diana the basic stats of elektra or cassandra.