Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Of course.. it's a non fight... The armors a pretty comparable... RKT and Prime and NOT COMPARABLE AT ALL. In other words if this was just Prime against RKT... it would be closed for spite. The armors being equal or close to equal don't in anyway close the power difference between these two. Very simple really Batman
Originally posted by Space M ummy skyfather level magic? doubtful- and that's irrelevant since the Aegis armor ISNT. Odin's raw power output was enough to blast moons into dust and shatter galaxies when he got serious. RKT's power was stronger- and you're putting him into a body that's as close to "physically indestructible" as marvel has. The Aegis armor is strong but not THAT strong. but the destroyer is eventually going to wreck it, and when he does it's a quick teleport into a red sun for a game over. Hell, RKT might even start the fight there, since even the core of a star isn't going to hurt the destroyer.
mordru is skyfather and had little affect on prime.
Originally posted by Uriel005 Make it timetrapper Prime in the suit and I'd say its a bit closer though RKT still has the edge by quite a fair amount.
if prime had all of time trapper abilities, he would likely win. even without the armor. time trapper was powerful enough to create pocket universes on a whim.
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
do u read comics? Rkt would shit stomp prime with utter ease. In fact, mere gestures...
No, the question is? Do you read.
What does RKT relies on the most? Magic. What is Prime immune too? Magic.
RKT with the ****ing Odin force got his arm broken by ****ing Wolverine. In the scan it's shown Thor holding his useless arm.
Again, Logan broke or dislocated RKT arm while he had the Odin Force.
Prime at point blank took the Anti Monitor anti matter wave by ripping right threw him.
Prime took on Mordru, and he made Mordru back down. He called an enraged Black Adam lighting as something that tickles him.
Broke threw a shield made from at least 50 Lanterns.
Took on Three Flashes at the same time, they only beat him by BFR him. Even that couldn't stop him.
From all the shits Superboy Prime did, he would made RKT his *****.
Originally posted by Batman-Prime
To be fair, SBP gave everone he faced a helluvatime and even beings like Guardians were hurt by him, even MXY who is >>> RKT was hurt and scared of SBP. Though I would agree that the Mxy feat was PIS at it's finest. He should stand his ground against RKT for some time.
...some time? maybe. but how long is that? Vanilla Thor went toe to toe with Zeus for months. RKT animating the destroyer technically isn't "alive" and would go on as long as the Odinforce holds up- and the Odinforce is infinite, for all practical purposes.
IIRC the Destroyer armor was damaged by attacks from lesser beings then Celestials, while I can't recall the Entropy Aegis ever been damaged at all.
nope. Nothing less than the entirety of the Odinforce has ever physically put down the destroyer. (this happened twice, IIRC). Which makes sense, since the Odinforce forged it in the first place.
It should be more indestructible then the Destroyer armor
Absolutely not. Again, there is no material anywhere in the marvel universe more durable than the destroyer. It's been stated and shown on panel to be significantly stronger than primary adamantium- and THAT stuff is impossible to damage outside of molecular manipulation, per Marvel.
The only OTHER substance we know to be definitively stronger than primary adamantium is captain america's shield. RKT Vaporized that shield with a glance. It took ALL of his power to take out the destroyer.
Note that this was a concentrated magical attack by the same force that forged it. SBP does not have this ability, and since this version of the destroyer has Thor's hammer, energy assaults are worthless.
are there any feats anywhere of SBP OR the Aegis damaging anything as durable as the Destroyer has been shown to be? This works both ways.
and it grants it's user also exotic powers, so Prime would be immune to time manip, more or less. I think it would amp him enough and protect him from everything RKT can throw at him, wile SBP speed and strength should be enough to destroy the Destroyer Armor and hurt RKT.
"immunity to time manipulation" is a hell of a stretch. What's to stop RKT from simply using time manipulation on himself to hit speeds SBP can't match? nothing. Remember the Odin/Seth fight took place across every plane of existence simultaneously- moving in and out of spacetime. Entropy Aegis' "exotic powers" are pathetic next to the all father.
"everything RKT can throw at him" is an insane amount of power- Odin's power levels were enough to turn moons to dust, bust galaxies, and create new suns. "Vanilla" Thor's godforce is powerful enough to shatter celestial armor and kill galactus.
RKT's power output exceeds both of them by several orders of magnitude.
Entropy Aegis might be tough, but I have a REALLY hard time buying something that was built from the remains of an imperiex probe (that could be destroyed physically) could outclass Galactus' defenses, Celestial Armor, Cap's shield, and Thor's hammer.
Again, Logan broke or dislocated RKT arm while he had the Odin Force.
and AGAIN, you seem to forget RKT is using the destroyer armor, meaning it's a hollow suit with no bones to "dislocate", and impossible to damage physically. I could tell you to go find scans of someone "dislocating" the destroyers arms, but I think we might be here a while. like forever.
Originally posted by SquallXNot canon. And it's speculation that it was useless. It was lacerated and bleeding and he seemed to be nursing it in one panel... but there's no indication that it was completely useless in the off-panel fight with Hulk and Thing. Which is where he really lost it.
RKT with the ****ing Odin force got his arm broken by ****ing Wolverine. In the scan it's shown Thor holding his useless arm.
Originally posted by Gecko4lifA regular human soldier occupying the Destroyer armor killed Thor outright. It's the one time Thor was ever outright murdered by it. Destroyer armor has never exhibited visible increases in power due to its occupant's power level with the exceptions of it being filled by Tarene (who possessed the power of the Designate) and Odin amped with the Skyfathers' power.
I really wouldnt say the destroyer armor and entropy aegis are comparable. The destroyer requires much more power to be effective
Bottom-line, the Destroyer armor with its most weakest occupant ever, a mere human, was still far above an all-out Thor:
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Thor vs the Destroyer yet again, from Thor vol. 2 #1-2:
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Uh, RKT didn't get owned by Wolverine. King Thor got his arm lacerated by Logan, who is <<< Rune King Thor. So lol at Squall owning anyone with his comments. Odinforce isn't just "magic", either. It enables the weilder to tap into mystical, cosmic, and divine energies.
And King Thor's eyebeams slagged Adamantium and Cap's shield.
Originally posted by SquallXMagic bolts might be useless but you can apply magic in many ways.
RKT greatest assets are his magic, and that's useless against Prime.Edit:RKT had his arm broken against Logan's claws, and we know Prime can hit far harder than it takes Logan to swings his arm.
Edit: that was not RKT
Originally posted by Prep-Man
mordru is skyfather and had little affect on prime.
Except prime was in severe pain due to kryptonite and harmed by red solar flames attacks by the legion. Aside from general facts know by both combatants, RKT has cosmic awarewareness. the armors are likely. Stalemate but RKT can cast spells unlike prime. Him by immune to magic doesn't take away Thor's option of teleporting a red sun into the battle field and out right bashing prime into it's core. Again the problem is removing the armor. If nothing it becomes a stalemate.
Originally posted by WhiteWitchKing
Except prime was in severe pain due to kryptonite and harmed by red solar flames attacks by the legion. Aside from general facts know by both combatants, RKT has cosmic awarewareness. the armors are likely. Stalemate but RKT can cast spells unlike prime. Him by immune to magic doesn't take away Thor's option of teleporting a red sun into the battle field and out right bashing prime into it's core. Again the problem is removing the armor. If nothing it becomes a stalemate.
RKT would be DEAD VIA BLITZ before he can do all that. 💃
Originally posted by WhiteWitchKing
Except prime was in severe pain due to kryptonite and harmed by red solar flames attacks by the legion. Aside from general facts know by both combatants, RKT has cosmic awarewareness. the armors are likely. Stalemate but RKT can cast spells unlike prime. Him by immune to magic doesn't take away Thor's option of teleporting a red sun into the battle field and out right bashing prime into it's core. Again the problem is removing the armor. If nothing it becomes a stalemate.
I still give the edge to RKT- it's pretty obvious Prime even with the Aegis doesn't have the powerset to take out this version of the destroyer. Best case for him, they pound on each other for centuries until someone wears down first.
However, I feel RKT is simply more versatile here in terms of power- higher upper level showings in terms of force, and a broader spectrum of abilities.
Could RKT simply absorb the power animating the Aegis armor? Odin was able to absorb Surtur into himself to end a fight, and Surtur is definitely skyfather level.
Could RKT use the hammer to absorb Prime's soul? It's been used to do so before.
Could RKT use matter manipulation to imprison Prime in a mile wide sphere of adamantium, uru, or whatever the destroyer is made out of, immobilizing him?
Those are hard questions with no clear cut answer, but they're possibilities that exist on one side here, and not the other.
RKT would be DEAD VIA BLITZ before he can do all that.
Explain how you kill the destroyer via blitz, when you can't even scratch it physically.
