Originally posted by shokosugi
SBP > Mordru = Guardian = Odin
Both Mordru and Odin are clearly above a single Guardian. Hell, they're both more powerful than Ganthet, the only one with good feats. And they both have means outside of directly attacking with magic to beat Prime.
Spectre's considered a magic character; does Prime no sell him too unless he's fully backed by the Presence?
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Shoko is an idiot.. nothing more.At Batman... what is the top attack the EA took and what on earth makes you believe that it has taken anything like what the destroyer has?
Also, would you not agree that RKT is tiers above SBP in terms of overall power?
Shoko is funny, don't be mean. He isn't even serious most of the time.
It took the full OE (not the OB) and it severed an energy tendril that destroyed whole cities. Even skyfather beings were awestrucked by it. There was never an instance where it was damaged by anything (unlike the Destroyer). It was a plot device without flaws. Since it was made from the remains of an Imperiex Probe and enchanced with Apokalyps technology and magic, and since it was seen as Imperiex reborn ^^, I would say that you have to be = Imperiex or >> Skyfathers to destroy or damage it. That's my impression.
I think Galactus or a good Celestial could destroy it but not Odin or RKT.
I also think that RKT > Odin or an other high end Skyfather, on his way to Abstract level but still < Imperiex Prime.
It depeneds on how you rate Monarch, I would say that Monarch is also > Skyfather but meh. RKT should be > SBP (without the GA amp) though I don't see him oneshooting SBP. SBP could fight for some time but would lose in the end.
However here, he is protected by the EA and this is the only reason I think he takes it or stalemates RKT.
Originally posted by Batman-Primedidnt heat vision also block the OE and not just the OB, although I would call that PIS. WW's bracelets too?
Shoko is funny, don't be mean. He isn't even serious most of the time.It took the full OE (not the OB) and it severed an energy tendril that destroyed whole cities. Even skyfather beings were awestrucked by it. There was never an instance where it was damaged by anything (unlike the Destroyer). It was a plot device without flaws. Since it was made from the remains of an Imperiex Probe and enchanced with Apokalyps technology and magic, and since it was seen as Imperiex reborn ^^, I would say that you have to be = Imperiex or >> Skyfathers to destroy or damage it. That's my impression.
I think Galactus or a good Celestial could destroy it but not Odin or RKT.I also think that RKT > Odin or an other high end Skyfather, on his way to Abstract level but still < Imperiex Prime.
It depeneds on how you rate Monarch, I would say that Monarch is also > Skyfather but meh. RKT should be > SBP (without the GA amp) though I don't see him oneshooting SBP. SBP could fight for some time but would lose in the end.However here, he is protected by the EA and this is the only reason I think he takes it or stalemates RKT.
Originally posted by 753
didnt heat vision also block the OE and not just the OB, although I would call that PIS. WW's bracelets too?
Superman is something special. But let's say it was pis, was it even the OE he blocked? WW Bracelets blocked pretty powerful attacks and I'm pretty sure they could block the Destroyer beams and anything RKT throws at her, and was it the OE she blocked? 🙂.
I'm not at home to read it up again but you refer to the DotNG Superman vs Darkseid and WW blocking the beams in Superman/Bamtan?
Originally posted by Batman-PrimeIm sure it was the OE that HV blocked. I believe it was the OE in the WW case too.
Superman is something special. But let's say it was pis, was it even the OE he blocked? WW Bracelets blocked pretty powerful attacks and I'm pretty sure they could block the Destroyer beams and anything RKT throws at her, and was it the OE she blocked? 🙂.I'm not at home to read it up again but you refer to the DotNG Superman vs Darkseid and WW blocking the beams in Superman/Bamtan?
not sure about them blocking anythign RKT throws her way. theyre enchanted by zeus right? pretty sure RKT could overide that.
Originally posted by 753
Im sure it was the OE that HV blocked. I believe it was the OE in the WW case too.not sure about them blocking anythign RKT throws her way. theyre enchanted by zeus right? pretty sure RKT could overide that.
Superman deflected the OE, that was really PIS. But it's superman so everything is possible, nexus being etc.
The WW case was the OB. WW blocked the might of the whole Greek Pantheon. So no RKT could not break them imho, though I guess it could be possible to remove the enchantments bit by bit, if you know what i mean.
Originally posted by 753It was the omega effect that Supes blocked with HV (which, again, is just.... Ridiculous.)
Im sure it was the OE that HV blocked.I believe it was the OE in the WW case too.
It was the omega beams that Dianna blocked.
Originally posted by KuRuPT ThanosiI agree.
What does it matter anyways... the Destoyer armor on panel has withstood greater attacks than the EA ever has. The destroyer has offensive physical tools the EA doesn't.... RKT is vastly.. and I mean vastly superior to Prime. This is a non fight imo
I am curious, though: how do you think the Destroyer would hold up against an entropic blast?
Originally posted by Galan007
It was the omega effect that Supes blocked with HV (which, again, is just.... Ridiculous.)It was the omega beams that Dianna blocked.
I agree.
I am curious, though: how do you think the Destroyer would hold up against an entropic blast?
Not sure but didn't it burn itself out by using that attack on doomsday who is less power than a destroyer armor rkt.
Originally posted by WhiteWitchKingYes it did. However, entropy is entropy- there are not greater and lesser 'variations' of it. That's why I'm curious how the Destroyer armor (not RKT) would fare against an entropic blast..?
Not sure but didn't it burn itself out by using that attack on doomsday who is less power than a destroyer armor rkt.