The Odin Force VS The Phoenix Force

Originally posted by zopzop
We can't really use the Celestials as a metric of power, because by that logic, Thor >>>>Destroyer with the Odinforce animating it. Since Thor punched a whole in Exitar's shell and went on to crush Exitar's skull.

And since many beleive that Exitar > Arshiem, Thor's feat > PF's. And we all know Odin > Thor, so....

Sigh!. Thor did not crush Exitars skull, and if you bothered to read the whole issue you know he was only able to even enter Exitars skull because the Celestials allowed it. And Thor has NEVER displayed the kind of power able to take on the version of the Destroyer that fought (and lost to) the Celestials.

Originally posted by The Dark Cloud
Celestials allowed it.

Even assuming this statement is correct, there's no proof but let's assume, Thor still managed to punch a hole in Exitar's outer shell by himself but 3 skyfathers couldn't even dent Arsheim.

Using the Celestials as a metric for anything gets us nowhere.

Originally posted by zopzop
Even assuming this statement is correct, there's no proof but let's assume, Thor still managed to punch a hole in Exitar's outer shell by himself but 3 skyfathers couldn't even dent Arsheim.

Using the Celestials as a metric for anything gets us nowhere.

Thor entered Exitars skull by wrapping his belt of strength around Mjolner and then proceeded to put a tiny hole in Exitars skull, an action which destroyed Mjolner. The Celestials created a mirror image of Thor at the end of the issue and explained their reasons for allowing (yes allowing) this. The Celestials the re-created mjolner and gave it back to Thor, thus overriding any of Odin's enchantments.

There's no doubt Phoenix did indeed destroy Arishems hand and drive the Celestials away from a world they intended to judge.

I think comparing how both forces did against the Celestials is indeed a good indicator

Originally posted by The Dark Cloud
Thor entered Exitars skull by wrapping his belt of strength around Mjolner and then proceeded to put a tiny hole in Exitars skull, an action which destroyed Mjolner. The Celestials created a mirror image of Thor at the end of the issue and explained their reasons for allowing (yes allowing) this. The Celestials the re-created mjolner and gave it back to Thor, thus overriding any of Odin's enchantments.

There's no doubt Phoenix did indeed destroy Arishems hand and drive the Celestials away from a world they intended to judge.

I think comparing how both forces did against the Celestials is indeed a good indicator

First of all, it wasn't "a small hole", he shattered his entire skull. Before that, he punch a hole in his outer shell.

Three skyfathers blasting Arsheim simultaneously didn't even scratch him. Unless you are willing to say that Thor > Odin/Zeus/Vishnu COMBINED, you can't use the Celestials are a metric.

The PF is a universal abstract. I'm sorry but I can't see It being bothered at all by the OF.

It's a universal abstract that was killed by Xorn. Freaking X O R N 🙁

Originally posted by zopzop
First of all, it wasn't "a small hole", he shattered his entire skull.

blowup

Originally posted by zopzop
It's a universal abstract that was killed by Xorn. Freaking X O R N 🙁

I knew that was comming. You just had to go and pick out the CIS. 😬

This is spite... PF would basically not even notice the OF. They operate on completely different power levels, not comparable at all. Wow would GS have a field day with this one...

What is with the Odin nuthuggery lately anyways; did the Thor movie speak to that many people here (wasn't good btw) i mean first Odin can beat Galactus with no PIS now OF beats PF?? really?

Originally posted by The Dark Cloud
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That's a small hole?! 🙄

Originally posted by zopzop
It's a universal abstract that was killed by Xorn. Freaking X O R N 🙁

correct me if i'm wrong, but the phoenix force cannot be killed; it was jean grey, it's host, that died iirc.

No I actually think he shattered the actual force itself! 🙁

Originally posted by zopzop
No I actually think he shattered the actual force itself! 🙁

that reeks of PIS then so why mention it?

Originally posted by zopzop
No I actually think he shattered the actual force itself! 🙁

He hit Jean with an electromagnetic pulse. How in the hell can that defeat a universal abstract? Complete PIS.

Originally posted by Sundipped
He hit Jean with an electromagnetic pulse. How in the hell can that defeat a universal abstract? Complete PIS.

Dude a few months ago there was like a 30 page thread arguing this. The PF itself said on panel that it was shattered. I don't EVER see Xorn doing that vs Odin.

Pheonix Force.

Spite.

Phoenix force crushes odin force like tin can

Originally posted by DickBlazer
Phoenix force crushes odin force like tin can

Why couldn't Odin shatter it like Xorn did? Odin >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Xorn.

Originally posted by zopzop
Dude a few months ago there was like a 30 page thread arguing this. The PF itself said on panel that it was shattered. I don't EVER see Xorn doing that vs Odin.

PIS involved, Odin would've suffered the same fate. How does an entity who defeated Galactus twice subjected to this?

Jgggg planetary sized stroke! and yeah the PF was fragmented!