Who is the weakest being who can defeat...

Started by Mindset3 pages

Originally posted by Simbon
It gives an idea of his general omnipotence, which can translate into TP defense.
No, it doesn't at all.

He had a powerful weapon, that says nothing about his tp defense. That's like saying Thor is protected from tp because of Mjolnir.

Originally posted by Glorificus
Cassandra Nova? Sersi? They are not low Herald.

Neither are Hulk, Mr. M, Count Nefaria, Firestorm, or Darwin. Especially since Darwin humiliated Hela.

But I nominate PC Superman. Sneeze them away into oblivion. But he'd run into trouble with the likes of Shadow King...

There are like 4 high class magic users here.

Originally posted by Mindset
No, it doesn't at all.

He had a powerful weapon, that says nothing about his tp defense. That's like saying Thor is protected from tp because of Mjolnir.

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Originally posted by Mindset
No, it doesn't at all.

He had a powerful weapon, that says nothing about his tp defense. That's like saying Thor is protected from tp because of Mjolnir.

Obviously it does; green lanterns have TP resistance, and Gog has access to their entire energy source through the staff. Same with the others (except the red suns; obviously they won't do much in that department)

Should have gone with actual tp instead of some tp energy blast that looks like fire, whatever that is. 😄

Originally posted by Mindset
Should have gone with actual tp instead of some tp energy blast that looks like fire, whatever that is. 😄

Dude I swear that's an actual psi bolt. Remember she thought she was fighting Juggenaut and wanted to psi blast him to kingdom come. 🙁

Originally posted by Simbon
Obviously it does; green lanterns have TP resistance, and Gog has access to their entire energy source through the staff. Same with the others (except the red suns; obviously they won't do much in that department)
They have tp defense because it was shown on panel that the rings grant it, and even then they couldn't stand up to this many tp users.

Unless he has shown tp defense, he doesn't have it.

Originally posted by zopzop
Dude I swear that's an actual psi bolt. Remember she thought she was fighting Juggenaut and wanted to psi blast him to kingdom come. 🙁
Ya, psi bolts are usually treated like energy attacks, though.

Originally posted by Mindset
They have tp defense because it was shown on panel that the rings grant it, and even then they couldn't stand up to this many tp users.

Unless he has shown tp defense, he doesn't have it.

Does that go for Zeus, as well? How about Abraxas?
That's why I put up a thread on who is the strongest person who loses to telepathy 10/10. At some point (I think skyfather) one has to assume an innate degree of resistance.

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Originally posted by Simbon
Does that go for Zeus, as well? How about Abraxas?
That's why I put up a thread on who is the strongest person who loses to telepathy 10/10. At some point (I think skyfather) one has to assume an innate degree of resistance.
Except their powers aren't external, and I'd say these telepaths working together could take down a skyfather.

Originally posted by Mindset
Except their powers aren't external, and I'd say these telepaths working together could take down a skyfather.

Maybe if they were mind-linked, otherwise I'm not seeing it. Also, the externality of the powers is irrelevant; Mandarin's TP comes from an external source, and it's still pretty powerful. Besides, how could the team deal with a skyfather's speed and time-manip?

WWH

Originally posted by Zack Fair
WWH

Fail. WWH < Low-Herald

Originally posted by Simbon
Fail. WWH < Low-Herald

Originally posted by Simbon
Maybe if they were mind-linked, otherwise I'm not seeing it. Also, the externality of the powers is irrelevant; Mandarin's TP comes from an external source, and it's still pretty powerful. Besides, how could the team deal with a skyfather's speed and time-manip?
If they are all attacking at once it doesn't matter if they're mindlinked or not, even though that is an option for them. Mandarin has on panel tp defense from his external power source, I'd imagine, does Gog? Can Gog timestop? They won't need to deal with his speed, they don't have to be directly in the fight.

Originally posted by Zack Fair
WWH

Good post. You are learning.

Originally posted by Mindset
Except their powers aren't external, and I'd say these telepaths working together could take down a skyfather.

Hmm, didn't Thanos and Moondragon almost mind-r@pe Galactus once? Lots of people on these boards seem to place him above skyfather so if they almost took him down.......

Originally posted by zopzop
Hmm, didn't Thanos and Moondragon almost mind-r@pe Galactus once? Lots of people on these boards seem to place him above skyfather so if they almost took him down.......
Well, Galactus allowed Thanos to enter his mind, then Thanos tried to mindrape him, but Galactus made him his ***** like always, or something like that.

Thanos also better TP feats than anyone on that list.