Transformers (Best vs. Rest)

I got this idea after watching DOTM and decided to see how high people rank the Transformers in fighting ability related to each other.

Best:
Optimus Prime(with trailer)
Sentinel Prime
The Fallen

vs.

Rest:
Shockwave(with worm)
Megatron(1st movie)
Bumblebee
Ironhide
Sideswipe
Barricade
Blackout
Grindor
Starscream

Fight takes place in the middle of New York City
Fighters start out 3 miles from each other
Who wins?

I don't even know which one I'm looking at half the time so I have no idea. It took me about 10 minutes to figure out it was Ironhide that got killed in DOTM.

Originally posted by McNasty996
I got this idea after watching DOTM and decided to see how high people rank the Transformers in fighting ability related to each other.

Best:
Optimus Prime(with trailer)
Sentinel Prime
The Fallen

vs.

Rest:
Shockwave(with worm)
Megatron(1st movie)
Bumblebee
Ironhide
Sideswipe
Barricade
Blackout
Grindor
Starscream

Fight takes place in the middle of New York City
Fighters start out 3 miles from each other
Who wins?

Bumblebee should be included in the best category

Originally posted by BruceSkywalker
Bumblebee should be included in the best category

Bumblebee is a total beast! He curbstomps them all dur But yeah love Bumblebee

Originally posted by steverules_2
Bumblebee is a total beast! He curbstomps them all dur But yeah love Bumblebee

i agree

Fallen wasn't very skilled, he just had mass power/abilities.

Bubblebee is likely the 2nd(or 3rd) in terms of skill. He's just small and has weaker weapons.

I tried to give the rest a fighting chance and avoid anyone
trying to point out that the rest have no real fighting ability
on their side, and on a side note I thought that each of
the best could beat Bee in a 1 on 1 fight almost every time,
but I am open to suggestion.

The Fallen could beat Bumblebee, but not because he has better fighting skills, he's massive and has more powerful attacks.

Sentinal could too, for the same reason. Though he's also very skilled. He may or may not be above Bumblebee in fighting skill.

So are you asking how they're ranked overall as in who could beat who in a 1v1 , or are you asking who showed the best fighting ability/talent?

It's just a title for a battle that pits the top 3
most powerful fighters, that are not neccessarily
ranked on skill versus a group of less powerful
but capable group of fighters. It pretty much just a
team battle that test how many fighters are necessary
to equal and surpass the power that team 1 holds, so yeah
just a team battle.

Then the "Rest" probably wins due to greater numbers. If we're not counting the "only a Prime can defeat The Fallen blah, blah, blah".

Yeah they failed to go into detail on that, Why can only a prime defeat the Fallen.

For this just assume he can be beat like any other Transformer through enough damage, I believe that when they said "only a Prime can beat the Fallen" they were only referring to in combat due to his abilities.

Now, I preface this question with an admission that I am blissfully ignorant of the intricacies and machinations of the Transformers phenomenon with the exception of the first two films, but....

WTF happened to Megatron?

You mean how he went from beating Prime into scrap in the first movie into being a bleating pussy in the other two?

Magic.

N.
You mean how he went from beating Prime into scrap in the first movie into being a bleating pussy in the other two?

Correct.

N.
Magic.

Voldemort strikes again!

gwah

Oh noes, RJ was right about HP wizards. They really are all that!