Avengers VS Justice League [cartoon battle]

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Yep. He couldn't stop Hulk while getting pounded on by the rest of the Avengers.

Originally posted by BullwinkleMoose
Cartoon Batman will dispose of Captain America pretty quickly I suspect. Batman in the cartoon has had moments where he has literally gone against and taken down the other JLU members. I have yet to see Captain America take down Thor in the cartoon (unless I missed something)

Cap had a good showing against Thor and Ironman during his first appearance.

Originally posted by ares834
Yep. He couldn't stop Hulk while getting pounded on by the rest of the Avengers.

Relook at the fight. All of the Avengers were down... His gravity powers failed on Hulk.

Originally posted by carver9
What are you talking about? It wasn't Gravitron that said he had the power of a black hole, Ironman scan him and said that the avengers need to retreat because Gravitron power level was generating the force of a black hole. Gravitron didn't say this... His power level did and he used that against the Hulk and couldn't stop him.

Hulk was at Gravs mercy in the air, till he was distracted by others. Don't make shit up. And Grav didn't had the power of a black hole, Grav said he had the power of the universe but he failed quite hard with it. Either he didn't had the power or he couldn't use it, iow didn't had the control.

Originally posted by Zack Fair
Dumb Grav. He should have just thrown him to space and that was the end of that.

I agree with this 100%. I was thinking this while he was fighting the Hulk.

Bats and Cap/Hawkeye and Green Arrow will always be a tie, toon-verse or comics, imo.

Toon Hulk is a beast and will hold his own against Supes and WW. Thor as well.

I don't see Hawkgirl putting down Iron Man.

Graviton appeared to use all his power to ground Hulk but couldn't, and said something like "That's impossible..."

Originally posted by Badabing
Bats and Cap/Hawkeye and Green Arrow will always be a tie, toon-verse or comics, imo.

Toon Hulk is a beast and will hold his own against Supes and WW. Thor as well.

I don't see Hawkgirl putting down Iron Man.

Graviton appeared to use all his power to ground Hulk but couldn't, and said something like "That's impossible..."

His control wasn't good or he didn't had as much powers as assumed. Though he couldn't completly hold him on the ground, he had him on his mercy in the air, where the Hulk was helpless.

Originally posted by Batman-Prime
Hulk was at Gravs mercy in the air, till he was distracted by others. Don't make shit up. And Grav didn't had the power of a black hole, Grav said he had the power of the universe but he failed quite hard with it. Either he didn't had the power or he couldn't use it, iow didn't had the control.

Hulk was never at Gravs mercy... He walked withstood his attacks.

I'm literally beating my head against the wall. Do you know what it means to read someone power level? If you do know what that mean then know this. Tony scanned Gravitron, the reading he got from Grav was that of a black hole. The reading he had made Tony want to flee. Ok, I hope you understood that.

Next thing. Gravitron was sweating trying to put the Hulk down and was in SHOCK that he couldn't drop him and said that he couldn't believe that he couldn't stop the Hulk.

Now since we are all smart here, let's put 2 and 2 together. Gravitron had the power of a black hole per Tony (who is a genious)... Gravitron used all of this power on Hulk and Hulk walked through it.

Do you not understand this?

Originally posted by Batman-Prime
His control wasn't good or he didn't had as much powers as assumed. Though he couldn't completly hold him on the ground, he had him on his mercy in the air, where the Hulk was helpless.

What does holding him in the air have to do with anything since Hulk can't fly? The point is, Hulk resisted a freaking black hole while ON THE GROUND.

If Graviton was truly using the power of a "black hole" he would have effortlessly destroyed the Earth...

Originally posted by ares834
If Graviton was truly using the power of a "black hole" he would have effortlessly destroyed the Earth...

Originally posted by carver9
Hulk was never at Gravs mercy... He walked withstood his attacks.

I'm literally beating my head against the wall. Do you know what it means to read someone power level? If you do know what that mean then know this. Tony scanned Gravitron, the reading he got from Grav was that of a black hole. The reading he had made Tony want to flee. Ok, I hope you understood that.

Next thing. Gravitron was sweating trying to put the Hulk down and was in SHOCK that he couldn't drop him and said that he couldn't believe that he couldn't stop the Hulk.

Now since we are all smart here, let's put 2 and 2 together. Gravitron had the power of a black hole per Tony (who is a genious)... Gravitron used all of this power on Hulk and Hulk walked through it.

Do you not understand this?

I understand the logic of a DBZ fan, Gravitons powers was way over 9000 🙄

Beat a little longer, it might help. Now genius, even IF Graviton had the power of a Black hole, it MIGHT be his potential, he never used it. If you are such a genius, think what would happen to earth IF he would use it. So he couldn't tap into his ful potential, obviously.

2 and 2 together, really simple.

He had Hulk in the air, at his mercy. Simple. Till he was distracted. Really simple. So hulk can't fly, he is in the air, he can't do shit = Graviton has him at his mercy = can do anything he wants.

😄

Do YOU understand this?

Originally posted by ares834
If Graviton was truly using the power of a "black hole" he would have effortlessly destroyed the Earth...

If Hulk was truly punching Graviton with all of the force in his right arm, he should have destroyed the city. It doesn't work like that, its a cartoon. Gravitron increased Thor weight a 1000 fold which should have taken him completely through earths crust but it didn't. It's a cartoon, stop using real world logic.

Originally posted by Zack Fair
facepalm

So we can't use any logic here at all? Let's be honest here; if Gravitron used all his power against Hulk, like Carver says, and he truly has the power of a blackhole then the Earth would be destroyed.

Originally posted by Batman-Prime
I understand the logic of a DBZ fan, Gravitons powers was way over 9000 🙄

Beat a little longer, it might help. Now genius, even IF Graviton had the power of a Black hole, it MIGHT be his potential, he never used it. If you are such a genius, think what would happen to earth IF he would use it. So he couldn't tap into his ful potential, obviously.

2 and 2 together, really simple.

He had Hulk in the air, at his mercy. Simple. Till he was distracted. Really simple. So hulk can't fly, he is in the air, he can't do shit = Graviton has him at his mercy = can do anything he wants.

😄

Do YOU understand this?

Read above please because if we are basing things off of collateral damage, Thor solos.

Originally posted by carver9
Read above please because if we are basing things off of collateral damage, Thor solos.

I did and if we go by this. Superman solos.

Originally posted by ares834
So we can't use any logic here at all? Let's be honest here; if Gravitron used all his power against Hulk, like Carver says, and he truly has the power of a blackhole then the Earth would be destroyed.

Wow... Just wow.

Graviton used the power he thought was enough to put Hulk down. Hulk proved him wrong by getting pissed off and walking through it. Now it wasn't as effortless as Carver makes it look, but it was still impressive none the less.

What Carver is trying to say(I think) is that Hulk was a beast in the cartoon and the whole Grav vs Avengers scene proves it. No one on the team, Thor included, could move except for the Hulk--who originally could not but grew strong enough to overcome Grav's hold.

Originally posted by Batman-Prime
I did and if we go by this. Superman solos.

I give up on you. I truly just give up. Hulk still solos.

Originally posted by carver9
If Hulk was truly punching Graviton with all of the force in his right arm, he should have destroyed the city.

Where has Hulk shown city busting power?

It doesn't work like that, its a cartoon. Gravitron increased Thor weight a 1000 fold which should have taken him completely through earths crust but it didn't. It's a cartoon, stop using real world logic.

And yet this doesn't compare. Sure he really should have fallen through the earth's crust... But yet that deosn't even remotely compare to the power of a black hole. Even a hundredth of the power would reduce the Earth to dust and yet all we see is a crater. Furthermore, Hulk ends up being temporarily knocked back by a bunch of those metal storage units being thrown into him.