Wonder Woman vs Champion

Classic Wondy vs PG Champion.

Twist... Even though Champion has the gem and can draw power from it, the twist is, he contains his average durability. He isn't drawing the durability portion from the gem, he has his standard durability.

Diana.

Diana can drop Champion before he taps enough strength to drop her.

Well written Champion will school her.

PG Champion had trouble hitting Thanos who's much slower and much less skilled than Wonder Woman...

Didn't Drax one shot Champ?

Originally posted by Harbinger
Diana can drop Champion before he taps enough strength to drop her.

If your talking about current Champion he does not have that problem he know how use the gem.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
PG Champion had trouble hitting Thanos who's much slower and much less skilled than Wonder Woman...

He had not trouble grabbing Mantis and was dancing around Thor.

Originally posted by Deadline
He had not trouble grabbing Mantis and was dancing around Thor.

And I don't recall Thor fighting PG Champion. IIRC Thor was immediately disqualified for trying to use his hammer in an unarmed bout.

Or are you referring to another instance?

In any case, WW is more skilled and much, much faster than Thor.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Mantis is much more skilled than Thanos or WW...but still much slower.

In that issue she tripped up The Runner....

Originally posted by Omega Vision

And I don't recall Thor fighting PG Champion. IIRC Thor was immediately disqualified for trying to use his hammer in an unarmed bout.

No that was champs without the PG so thats worse.

Originally posted by Omega Vision

Or are you referring to another instance?

In any case, WW is more skilled and much, much faster than Thor.

Im not sure if she more skilled, sometimes Thor can have comparable speed. Hes also knocked Surfer off his board when he was rushing him.

Originally posted by Deadline
In that issue she tripped up The Runner....

No that was champs without the PG so thats worse.

Im not sure if she more skilled, sometimes Thor can have comparable speed. Hes also knocked Surfer off his board when he was rushing him.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Are you really going to argue that there's not a significant speed gap between Thor and WW?

WW obvously has more of them, but if you were in Thor debates you will see there is a case for him having FTL speed or reflexes especially when using the hammer.

I would say you could feasibly argue for Thor having fast reactionary speed/reflexes scattered through out his career - he certainly has some impressive ones - but Diana is his clear superior.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
I would say you could feasibly argue for Thor having fast reactionary speed/reflexes scattered through out his career - he certainly has some impressive ones - but Diana is his clear superior.

Yea, point is Thor does have some comparable feats.

It's going to make my stomach hurt saying this but Wonder Woman is far faster than Thor and Thor doesn't have a single showing similar to what Wondy has done.

Originally posted by Deadline
In that issue she tripped up The Runner....

Which is PIS. She's never diaplayed the kind of speed to keep up with a speedster on Runner's level.

Having that feat on top of the low end feat of being grabbed by Champion further calls that feat into question.. Runner < Mantis < Champion? Doubtful.

Originally posted by cdtm
Which is PIS. She's never diaplayed the kind of speed to keep up with a speedster on Runner's level.

Having that feat on top of the low end feat of being grabbed by Champion further calls that feat into question.. Runner < Mantis < Champion? Doubtful.

Just like wonder Woman hitting Zoom but people still ue it ad a speed feat. Can't accept one without accepting the other.

Originally posted by cdtm
Which is PIS. She's never diaplayed the kind of speed to keep up with a speedster on Runner's level.

It's not PIS she one of the most skilled martial artists in the whole universe. Use your head. I doubt Runner was going at top speed though.

Originally posted by cdtm

Having that feat on top of the low end feat of being grabbed by Champion further calls that feat into question.. Runner < Mantis < Champion? Doubtful.

Um she got grabbed by the best martial artist in the whole universe. Champs has danced around Thor.

Originally posted by carver9
Just like wonder Woman hitting Zoom but people still ue it ad a speed feat. Can't accept one without accepting the other.

You're right.

Originally posted by carver9
Classic Wondy vs PG Champion.

Twist... Even though Champion has the gem and can draw power from it, the twist is, he contains his average durability. He isn't drawing the durability portion from the gem, he has his standard durability.

Even with the gem, the Champion has to force people to fight him under restrictions so they can't use the lion's share of their powers (Beta Ray Bill, the Surfer, etc.). With no restrictions, WW annihilates him.