Originally posted by CosmicComet
I'm not sure he can KO Worthy Juggernaut quite yet, (his durability seems to be hinted at being very high) so that's the only question mark at this point.But he can beat everyone else even if they teamed up taking the bulk of his post-crisis showings into account.
So Superman can ko Hulk...someone that Thor had to give his all against and still couldn't do nothing.
Yeah right.
Originally posted by CosmicComet
I'm not sure he can KO Worthy Juggernaut quite yet, (his durability seems to be hinted at being very high) so that's the only question mark at this point.But he can beat everyone else even if they teamed up taking the bulk of his post-crisis showings into account.
Haha what the f*ck?
You must be joking because that's some Starscream level stupidity. Adding a Mjolnir level weapon will definitely increase Superman's formidability but there are like 4 other Elite Top Tiers and the Hulk who was also a High Herald before receiving an Asgardian hammer.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Haha what the f*ck?You must be joking because that's some Starscream level stupidity. Adding a Mjolnir level weapon will definitely increase Superman's formidability but there are like 5 other Elite Top Tiers and the Hulk who was also a High Herald before receiving an Asgardian hammer
Speed blitz.
Prove it wrong.
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None of these guys can touch Superman if he doesn't want to be touched. A hypothetical thunderclap? Seeing as Superman is much faster than sound anyway, he won't be hit if he doesn't want to.
Originally posted by CosmicComet
Speed blitz.Prove it wrong.
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None of these guys can touch Superman if he doesn't want to be touched. A hypothetical thunderclap? Seeing as Superman is much faster than sound anyway, he won't be hit if he doesn't want to.
Superman's battles in comics.
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Unfortunately they will and he'd get raped.
He'd definitely be better off in the OWAW mindset but even then I don't see it happening. Maybe if Loeb was writing the battle.
People should also take into account the speed/power trade off that almost always happens in comics.
Originally posted by Zack Fair
Superman is bloodlusted and greatly outnumbered. That is why I think he will use his speed to great effect. But since that doesn't suit you he won't, huh?
There is a very big difference between a blood lusted or raging Superman and the CBR version that exists in the mind of Superfags.
According to the stips Lois has died, Metropolis is ruined etc. Superman is going to be less effective here than he would be if totally in control of himself but pissed off. His going to rush in head first right into the Worthy screaming.
This isn't my opinion, this is how he's approached a similar situation in comics and how I'd wager most writers would have him operate under such stress.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
😬Bro, you have been sipping some seriously tainted Koolaid.
Speed simply kills bro. That's all there is to it. It even adds to power, logically.
As much as I like Thor and think he outclasses Superman in certain respects, like power output and pull-stuff-out-of-your ass-ness, he is woefully unprepared in speed.
No real way to argue against the importance of it on this level. Subjectively playing up writer inhibited portrayals does not do anything against objectively observed feats.
Marvel just doesn't highlight combat effective speed feats as much in their heralds as I would like.
Originally posted by CosmicComet
Speed simply kills bro. That's all there is to it. It even adds to power, logically.As much as I like Thor and think he outclasses Superman in certain respects, like power output and pull-stuff-out-of-your ass-ness, he is woefully unprepared in speed.
No real way to argue against the importance of it on this level. Subjectively playing up writer inhibited portrayals does not do anything against objectively observed feats.
Marvel just doesn't highlight combat effective speed feats as much in their heralds as I would like.
You just said that when it comes to striking power, even with Mjolnir, Thor isn't on Superman's level or whatever.
That is a very stupid thing to say. Even if you believe Superman has the strength edge, when it comes to striking power, I don't see how anyone who has read up on the two characters can have the opinion that you just gave.
Subjectively playing up portrayals? I can't believe your serious here, not when the norm is what I described and someone like Jeph Loeb is the large anomaly. It's no coincidence that almost all the combat speed showings referenced on boards were written by him.
F*ck speed and the wanking it's been getting lately. This board/stat game mentally posters have acquired lately isn't something I understand. In battles, Superman goes toe to toe 90% of the time or more. On a very unusual occasion he might throw in half a dozen punches in combination with heat vision or what not but even then there is almost always a trade off of power for speed. A single standing swing is more or less equivalent to a large amount of super fast blows often.
It's just how shit operates in comics. This is the mentality that eventually leads people to argue that every brick that goes toe to toe with Superman has to be super fast in his own right and what not but apparently the same won't apply for Marvel.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Did I hurt your feelings? cry2Anyways, I wasn't referring to you or CC.
Yeah you did =\ but it is all cool now.
The speed mentality has been around for quite a while bro.
I think writters would have Superman going all out and effectively using his powers when his city and the love of his life have been destroyed. Specially since he will know just how powerful these guys really are.
However that doesn't mean he will win 10/10. If he plays his cards right he might get 2-3. Otherwise he fails and DC is screwed lol.