Originally posted by carver9you clowning son...hp dd would wreck zeus like he did darkseid and superman.
HP Doomsday gets merked by Zeus in a couple of panel. This is a high skyfather we are talking about...HP is good but he isnt skyfather good. The other Doomsdays are need.Galan, that's the Doomsday I am taking about with the gl ring that took out all of thosr
Originally posted by leonidas
guess it depends on what you think of a guardian and darkseid, both of whom fell before hp dd alone.gog wars dd was uber--he slaughtered gogs left and right for like, 100yrs or something.
frankly, not really sure, though i lean towards the dd team.
Do u view zeus as comparable to Odin? Cause I know use got a pretty high opinion of Odin and if as they are roughly equal as it is often portrayed then he should solo quite frankly.
Granted I see hp doomsday as one of the more overrated characters on the forum but the point stands regardless
Originally posted by Galan007
In the Doomsday Annual it was revealed that some 250,000 years before the Death of Superman, DD encountered a Green Lantern, killed him, took his ring, then went on a rampage which ended up killing hundreds more Lanterns (and injuring thouands), and killing a Guardian.Maybe that's who carver is referring to..?
Cool beans. 🙂
A DD before DOS hmm... maybe they were smarter in the old days...
I don't see how H/P Doomsday is that overrated..? He tanked the OE not once, but twice, then nearly killed Darkseid with something like 4 blows- and that's back when the OE/Darkseid were something to be feared. He also toyed with an amped (and yes, he was definitely amped) version of Superman, killed the Radiant, and nearly destroyed Waverider.
And as we later saw in Doomsday Wars, H/P Doomsday was also powerful enough to collectively trounce Orion (while tanking the Astro Force in the process), Wally, Kyle, J'onn, Dianna, Plastic Man, Superman (again), etc. etc.
He's one tough cookie.
HPDD feats are pretty impressive for a brick.. in fact he is one of the toughest ones out there. I think Naija Boy point, and mine is well, is that his adaptive qualities are often times overrated by people. I can't speak for him, but when I speak of him being overrated that is what I mean. People act like he adapts on the fly to beat anybody and does so all the time with ease.
Originally posted by Naija boy
Do u view zeus as comparable to Odin? Cause I know use got a pretty high opinion of Odin and if as they are roughly equal as it is often portrayed then he should solo quite frankly.Granted I see hp doomsday as one of the more overrated characters on the forum but the point stands regardless
going by on panel feats i think odin far surpasses zeus, though they SHOULD be the same. ds himself has killed many gods though, so like i said, depends on how you view ds.
galan pointed out some of the hp stuff. i really don't think he's overrated at all. he also slaughtered scores of lanterns and killed a guardian.
my opinion would likely change were it odin, and i'm not 100% sure the dd's would win, but i'm def of the mind that they could.
Originally posted by Galan007
I don't see how H/P Doomsday is that overrated..? He tanked the OE not once, but twice, then nearly killed Darkseid with something like 4 blows- and that's back when the OE/Darkseid were something to be feared. He also toyed with an amped (and yes, he was definitely amped) version of Superman, killed the Radiant, and nearly destroyed Waverider.And as we later saw in Doomsday Wars, H/P Doomsday was also powerful enough to collectively trounce Orion (while tanking the Astro Force in the process), Wally, Kyle, J'onn, Dianna, Plastic Man, Superman (again), etc. etc.
He's one tough cookie.
My problem with him is that, the aforementioned feats put him firmly in trans, largely due to durability Yet u see it often in threads with hp/doomsday against even legitimate sky fathers, he adapts and Wins. The adaptation card is so overplayed its not even funny. Especially seeing as anyone who actually read hunter prey knows that his exploits of on the fly adaptation while ok were nothing unbelievable.
Originally posted by leonidas
going by on panel feats i think odin far surpasses zeus, though they SHOULD be the same. ds himself has killed many gods though, so like i said, depends on how you view ds.galan pointed out some of the hp stuff. i really don't think he's overrated at all. he also slaughtered scores of lanterns and killed a guardian.
my opinion would likely change were it odin, and i'm not 100% sure the dd's would win, but i'm def of the mind that they could.
Thats true but largely due to Zeus lack of appearances. Going by portrayal as well as feats they are on par......and even if we were to say that Zeus was weaker, it certainly wouldn't be by such a huge margin according to their respective portrayals and hence I think that to suggest that would clearly contradict comics. I don't think we should have Zeus' lack of appearances count against him to the extent which we will grossly lower his power level from what it is suggested to be on panel. imo anyways.
Originally posted by Naija boy
Thats true but largely due to Zeus lack of appearances. Going by portrayal as well as feats they are on par......and even if we were to say that Zeus was weaker, it certainly wouldn't be by such a huge margin according to their respective portrayals and hence I think that to suggest that would clearly contradict comics. I don't think we should have Zeus' lack of appearances count against him to the extent which we will grossly lower his power level from what it is suggested to be on panel. imo anyways.
that's fair enough. not sure why zeus never gets the luv from appearances. just really hard to debate FOR zeus without the feats.
the adaptation card is played too often, i agree. still, he's a beast. if you don't feel ds is very powerful, or a guardian, you'll likely see the team winning.
Originally posted by Naija boyIm not the one downplaying HP DD. you seem to think someone who toyed with darkseid and motherbox amped superman is 'overrated'.
Right...and you are a paragon of knowledge I suppose? Just stop posting before u exceed ur idiot quota for today and ur nonsense moves from being funny to annoying.
thanos is a nonfactor. so how do you see zeus beating hp dd?
Originally posted by Naija boy
My problem with him is that, the aforementioned feats put him firmly in trans, largely due to durability Yet u see it often in threads with hp/doomsday against even legitimate sky fathers, he adapts and Wins. The adaptation card is so overplayed its not even funny. Especially seeing as anyone who actually read hunter prey knows that his exploits of on the fly adaptation while ok were nothing unbelievable.
Originally posted by Starscream M
Im not the one downplaying HP DD. you seem to think someone who toyed with darkseid and motherbox amped superman is 'overrated'.thanos is a nonfactor. so how do you see zeus beating hp dd?
If by non factor you mean beat any one of the DD's by himself... then you're correct.
Originally posted by King Kandyhe didn't need to adapt in the hp saga as nothing was a threat to him. hence superman had to send him to end of time, as opposed to figuring out another means of attack.
I agree. He did not really adapt to that much. Mostly he just manipulated his protrusions to counter various threats. I think the best feat was adapting an energy field that countered Radiant, but this only happened after he'd already died once against him.
Originally posted by Starscream M
he didn't need to adapt in the hp saga as nothing was a threat to him. hence superman had to send him to end of time, as opposed to figuring out another means of attack.
Originally posted by King Kandyadaptation isn't the reason I think he wins. I just think his overall speed (faster than superman), strength (enough to KO darkseid like a doll), and durability (shrug off Omega beam) is enough to win this
So on what basis do you place his adaption so high? You just have faith that it is there even though you admit it was never demonstrated?
his on the spur evolution capabilities are simply a bonus to make him even tougher to deal with
his friggin bone spurs cut through superman as if he were made of butter...fer crying out loud