Re: Superboy Prime runs the Hulk Gauntlet
Originally posted by Cogito
Stipulations:
All versions of Hulk gain standard Superman level flight and flight speed.How far does SBP get?
1. WWH
2. WWH + Rulk
3. WWH + Rulk + Skaar
4. WWH + Rulk + Skaar + Savage Hulk
5. WWH + Rulk + Skaar + Savage Hulk + Regular Hulk + She Hulk + Professor Hulk
6. WWH w/ Red Ring (& experience) + Rulk + Skaar + Savage + Hulk + She Hulk + Professor HulkFight takes place on indestructible planet, no BFR
Standard SM level flight and speed isn't gonna help.
Prime Smash!
If you had a couple Flashes in there somewhere the team might have a chance. 🙂
Originally posted by Gecko4lif
So your making it harder by adding progressively WEAKER hulks?It doesnt work that way....
Just read sm speed part. Makes it magnitudes closer but still sbp should take it with low difficulty
Yes, added weaker hulks. Sorry but Hulks don't get stronger, and it's not worth starting with She Hulk.
What if, in the last condition, all hulks get red rings instead of just WWH?
Pushing planets and busting continents is nice but ultimately meaningless.
Gladiator has busted a planet in 3 punches on panel, yet lost HORRIBLY to Savage Hulk. Thor also beat him (and Thor got no planet busting feats under his belt).
I'm betting WWH/WBH pushes Prime's sh-t in, if BFR is off the table. Marvel is leaning toward making the Hulk Trans Tier in terms of strength/durability.
Originally posted by zopzopYou mean the same tier Prime is in terms of just strength/durability? 😐
Pushing planets and busting continents is nice but ultimately meaningless.Gladiator has busted a planet in 3 punches on panel, yet lost HORRIBLY to Savage Hulk. Thor also beat him (and Thor got no planet busting feats under his belt).
I'm betting WWH/WBH pushes Prime's sh-t in, if BFR is off the table. Marvel is leaning toward making the Hulk Trans Tier in terms of strength/durability.
Originally posted by iceman24567
You mean the same tier Prime is in terms of just strength/durability? 😐
Yes. In WWH/WBH mode, everything increases as he gets enraged : strength, stamina, healing factor, etc.... and we haven't seen his upper limit yet. In a fight vs SBP, BFR is Hulk's only weakness.
Originally posted by zopzopNice to bad Prime isn't only stronger than Hulk he's faster not to mention his other abilities. It's a non fight WWH/WBH would get waxed by Prime
Yes. In WWH/WBH mode, everything increases as he gets enraged : strength, stamina, healing factor, etc.... and we haven't seen his upper limit yet. In a fight vs SBP, BFR is Hulk's only weakness.
Originally posted by zopzopUntil Hulk throws planets around, tanks anti-matter energy, and simultaneously beats every noteworthy character in his company (with ease), then I'm going to keep assuming that Prime is a LOT stronger and more durable than he's yet to be portrayed.
Yes. In WWH/WBH mode, everything increases as he gets enraged : strength, stamina, healing factor, etc.... and we haven't seen his upper limit yet. In a fight vs SBP, BFR is Hulk's only weakness.
Additionally, I think an option people are forgetting about is Prime's HV. Even when he was extremely weakened during SC, his HV still pierced through Superman like a hot knife through butter... That said, it wouldn't even slow down vs. Hulk's hide. Just saying.
Originally posted by Galan007
Until Hulk throws planets around, tanks anti-matter energy, and simultaneously beats every noteworthy character in his company (with ease), then I'm going to keep assuming that Prime is a LOT stronger and more durable than he's yet to be portrayed.Additionally, I think an option people are forgetting about is Prime's HV. Even when he was extremely weakened during SC, his HV still pierced through Superman like a hot knife through butter... That said, it wouldn't even slow down vs. Hulk's hide. Just saying.
Throwing around planets and tanking ani-matter is meaningless in a vs fight. Sure it's nice to have as feats in a respect thread but in an actual fight, it proves nothing.
Gladiator busted a planet with 3 punches and has flown thrown the hearts of stars, yet he got crushed by Savage Hulk. Thor and Masterson Thor have also beaten him. His feats didn't save him in a fight.
IMHO, WBH/WWH can take some wins over Prime.
Originally posted by zopzop
Yes. In WWH/WBH mode, everything increases as he gets enraged : strength, stamina, healing factor, etc.... and we haven't seen his upper limit yet. In a fight vs SBP, BFR is Hulk's only weakness.
I agree 100% with this statement.
@Galan...
WWH decimated Rulk with ease and this was a Rulk that was using hi is absorption abilities. Rulk is a top tier, especially during the time he got curbed by Hulk. Then on panel, Savage Hulk himself has taken on and actually defeated top tiers (including Thor) so its pretty much common sense that WBH could replicate Savage feats on a higher scale since he is overall FAR more powerful.
All of this is pretty much common sense. Prime isn't as physically strong as Hulk and planetary feats doesn't proves this... ESPECIALLY since a weakened Hulk has held planets together himself.
Originally posted by zopzopEh, wut? Feats are all we have to go by on KMC. And in this case, they serve to demonstrate the VAST difference in displayed feats between Hulk and Prime.
Throwing around planets and tanking ani-matter is meaningless in a vs fight. Sure it's nice to have as feats in a respect thread but in an actual fight, it proves nothing.
ie. Prime's strength was sufficient to casually throw planets around. His durability was sufficient to tank Anti-Monitor's anti-matter energy AND endure a universe-busting explosion unscathed. His HV (while tremendously weak) cut through Superman himself like he wasn't even there. From those feats I can logically deduce that Prime was portrayed as several leagues beyond WWH/WBH in those areas.
Originally posted by zopzopDon't care what Gladiator or Thor have done. Anyone who isn't nigh-retarded would agree that Prime demolishes either of them in a contest of strength/durability. Aside from that, Prime actually uses his hax strength/durability in battles *see every fight he's been involved in*.
Gladiator busted a planet with 3 punches and has flown thrown the hearts of stars, yet he got crushed by Savage Hulk. Thor and Masterson Thor have also beaten him. His feats didn't save him in a fight.IMHO, WBH/WWH can take some wins over Prime.
Regardless, you're entitled to your own opinion- but in my opinion, WWH did nothing indicative of being able to take any wins over Prime. He [Hulk] barely managed to stalemate a baseline/non-Voided out Sentry, after all (and most agree that version of Sentry < Prime.)