Originally posted by quanchi112
Hal doesn't have surfer's durability or power so I hardly think that's an indication of anything. I do know the guardians are powerful but not that hard to beat by an experienced/powerful character like the Surfer.
The best chance Surfer has is to try and create some Anti-Matter energy. The Anti-Monitor roasted a Guardian with it by simply touching him. Other than that, I don't see anyone herald level being able to rival any member of the Quintessence.
Originally posted by JakeTheBankI agree 100%. 👆
I'm pretty surprised to see a bunch of people pulling for Surfer here, too, considering, generally, most people would put Surfer and a top tier Lantern on the same level (with one edging out the other).
Another thing I find odd is that Krona recently showed us what a Guardian who lets loose is capable of- and I don't think anyone would argue that Surfer could beat him..? /shrug
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
I think Ganthet would have more control over his own will power based energy than Norrin would.I'm pretty surprised to see a bunch of people pulling for Surfer here, too, considering, generally, most people would put Surfer and a top tier Lantern on the same level (with one edging out the other).
Originally posted by Ambient
I just think of Surfer as like Superman who operates at top high herald on regular basis but amp them up they jump a tier. The diff is that Supes is only limited on sol energy to sun dipped/amp, surfer does not have this restriction him being a energy manipulator.. We don't need ex. Of Supes, surfer on the other hand his done it in inf. Crusade or unilord saga and dome others..
Oh, I have no doubts about Surfer being pretty top notch as an energy manipulator, I just have doubts about him wresting control from Ganthet's own energy reserves and somehow draining him or something similar.
Originally posted by Galan007
I agree 100%. 👆Another thing I find odd is that Krona recently showed us what a Guardian who lets loose is capable of- and I don't think anyone would argue that Surfer could beat him..? /shrug
I guess the argument could be that WoGL did end with
Spoiler:
Hal killing Krona with an energy blast
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Oh, I have no doubts about Surfer being pretty top notch as an energy manipulator, I just have doubts about him wresting control from Ganthet's own energy reserves and somehow draining him or something similar.
Originally posted by AlmightyKfishTo be fair, Krona didn't bother defending against that blast because he (and every other Guardian) thought it was impossible for a ring to harm a Guardian due to the safeguards imposed on them.
I guess the argument could be that WoGL did end withSpoiler:
Hal killing Krona with an energy blast
It's either that, or Hal became more powerful than the Ion entity itself during that scene. I'll side with the former, myself.