Originally posted by dmills
Exactly. If he could've returned, he would have since as you said, a solar system is a short distance to beings like them. Both Firelord and Airwalker knew that they couldn't match his power and all but admitted it on panel. And furthermore, Supernova beat Firelord into a coma with that same power once before. I'm not sure what the dispute is here 😬Why would one statement retcon an entire story arc when there's no contradiction or discrepancy? Both things can equally be true. Richard under normal circumstances is beneath the likes of the surfer. But it is also true that entirety of the nova force >>>> over any herald leveler. This has been stated, eluded to and displayed on panel quite a few times. The only reason Richie doesn't tap too deep is because he'd risk his sanity.
Or perhaps he was unable to return due to interruption but the point is that feat you mention isn't enough indication for an easy fight, as in one shot by bloodlusted Nova.. All I got was firelord in holding stasis in supernovas ship before he was ambush, a scan of him beating Firelord into a coma would be great..
I call it as what it is, which pretty much intells what the actual entity within the power say and that is the power of a herald of galactus > that of nova force and not someone's guess.. If you want to compare scanned feats.. Im game and it'd be fun..
Originally posted by AmbientThe last time we saw Nova he was using the full Nova force, recently he was tanking attack from Sphinx with 2 KA stones and opening stargates in his head.
I think he'd have a hard time starting at 3 or 4 (the revise version of the list of course) even a bloodlusted Nova.. Both original incarnation of Air Walker and Terrax were pretty uber before they took second form which really depowered them.
Yeah but original versions of some of the herald were destroying planets, lifting manhattan into space, fighting inside blackholes, trading blows with elite herald like Thor and surfer, etc and etc.. This are people starting at # 3 less Nova is trans tier bloodlusted then yes he'd have quit an easy time clearing till top of the list but really his never shown to have this kinda feat..
Originally posted by AmbientSphinx who Nova beat was merging 2 timelines, and with 1 KA stone Sphinx held his own against Galactus iirc..when Nova beat him he had 2 stones.
Yeah but original versions of some of the herald were destroying planets, lifting manhattan into space, fighting inside blackholes, trading blows with elite herald like Thor and surfer, etc and etc.. This are people starting at # 3 less Nova is trans tier bloodlusted then yes he'd have quit an easy time clearing till top of the list but really his never shown to have this kinda feat..
Right def. A very good showing tanking some of the attacks but really dough someone with the kind Of power; universal level reality altering power falling victim to a stargate BFR. Prety much poor use of the KA stones - CIS on Spynx.. A herald of Galactus could replicate that feat. It's within they're powerset to open stargates into dimensions.
Originally posted by AmbientI wouldnt say it was a poor use of the stones by Sphinx, Nova was just too fast/manuverable for him. Nova opens stargates on a regular though as a offensive tactic, im not sure if the herald has ever done a stargate inside someone like Nova did.
Right def. A very good showing tanking some of the attacks but really dough someone with the kind Of power; universal level reality altering power falling victim to a stargate BFR. Prety much poor use of the KA stones - CIS on Spynx.. A herald of Galactus could replicate that feat. It's within they're powerset to open stargates into dimensions.
Originally posted by Ambient
Srry! Took a while to reply..Or perhaps he was unable to return due to interruption but the point is that feat you mention isn't enough indication for an easy fight, as in one shot by bloodlusted Nova.. All I got was firelord in holding stasis in supernovas ship before he was ambush, a scan of him beating Firelord into a coma would be great..
I call it as what it is, which pretty much intells what the actual entity within the power say and that is the power of a herald of galactus > that of nova force and not someone's guess.. If you want to compare scanned feats.. Im game and it'd be fun..
But it was stated on panel, so again I'm not sure what the dispute is. Just to further the point, Queen Adora even said that their effort was futile which is why I assume that Gladiator and the Imperial Guard were called in for support.
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As for a herald replicating the Sphinx feat, that well may be true but the same can be said of any number of feats for most characters of similar power-sets. The bottomline is that it was Nova's feat, so it doesn't arbitrarily get applied as a proxy feat to other people. That called lowballing.
Richard has defeated the Sphinx on several occasions. He's a Nova rogue, the hero always finds a way to beat his nemesis. There's even a certain respect that the two have for one another.
I like this, but like others have said, 3 and 4 should be higher up. Terrax may job, but he has incredible power -- heroes don't get hit with his axe because they're heroes, but it is one of the deadliest weapons wielded by a herald-level character, since it can basically one-shot any herald level character it hits. I still give Nova a majority over him, but it not a large one.
Originally posted by Simbon
I like this, but like others have said, 3 and 4 should be higher up. Terrax may job, but he has incredible power -- heroes don't get hit with his axe because they're heroes, but it is one of the deadliest weapons wielded by a herald-level character, since it can basically one-shot any herald level character it hits. I still give Nova a majority over him, but it not a large one.
Yeah I hear you. It gets pretty tricky ranking Galactus's heralds once you get past Nova (Frankie) and Air Walker.
Terrax is a character that I think is in a similar boat as Apocalypse. Never quite written to his potential.
Originally posted by dmills
But it was stated on panel, so again I'm not sure what the dispute is. Just to further the point, Queen Adora even said that their effort was futile which is why I assume that Gladiator and the Imperial Guard were called in for support.
Really what im trying to point out is that blood lusted Nova would have quite a diff. time taking out a majority against FL let alone some of the higher heralds on the list.. Current evidence provided is just not enough for me to say he clears it..
