[QUOTE=13468882]Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Generally, but in their fights, as soon as Thor decides to use Mjolnir for things other than melee strikes and invokes his powers, it's clear the situation changes in his favor. I mean, the guy stopped Hulk dead in his tracks with rain. Otherwise, they're, as a whole, viewed as equals with comics supporting it. I mean, if Thor draws or stalemates Hulk with his own physical strength w/o Mjolnir, it clearly paints a picture for us as to what would happen if he fought Hulk tapping into his abilities as a whole. [/QUOT
Have you ever thought about this with him vs Superman or Surfer? Him tapping into his abilities? Hulk can close the gap and easily at that. Whirlwinds ain't going to do craps to Hulk and lightning isn't dropping him. Unless we are talking about a complete CIS free fight where Thor does a soul suck or bfr, Current Hulk kills him.
Originally posted by carver9
Have you ever thought about this with him vs Superman or Surfer? Him tapping into his abilities? Hulk can close the gap and easily at that. Whirlwinds ain't going to do craps to Hulk and lightning isn't dropping him. Unless we are talking about a complete CIS free fight where Thor does a soul suck or bfr, Current Hulk kills him.
By him, do you mean Thor? I think if Thor cuts loose and uses his other abilities, it forces Superman and Surfer to do something similar outside of simple blasting and punching. Likewise, if Surfer got exotic or Superman did something similiar, Thor would have to do something outside of hammer tosses and melee and he has the capability to do so. Hulk doesn't have that kind of versatility to keep up against the three top guns in comics. In order for Hulk to win or have a shot at winning, they literally have to fight Hulk on Hulk's terms.
And lol at whirlwinds and lightning not doing anything to Hulk. Considering Thor's whirlwinds threw Glory for a loop (and have stopped Hulk before) and Thor's lightning damaged Chaos King among other immensely powerful beings, they're both effective against Hulk. And he does both of those more than enough for it not to matter if it's CIS off/on for Thor.
Take off your Hulk Goggles.
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
A while back when he used them defensively ala a shield of sorts. Hulk couldn't get past them. Granted, Hulk's gotten much better feats, but Thor can summon planetary level whirlwinds or those of multiple worlds at once.
Ah, was it in an old Journey Into The Mystery book? If it was there was an instance where Thor protected himself while talking to Odin and Hulk was trying to attack but that wasn't a whirlwind it was a dimensional barrier, although it was drawn like one.
A Glory/Chaos King level whirlwind and lightning blast would certainly do serious damage but can he summon them near instantly? As Hulk knows how powerful Thor is and it's in his character to be all over his opponents, not giving them time to breathe or recover.
Originally posted by The Sorrow
Ah, was it in an old Journey Into The Mystery book? If it was there was an instance where Thor protected himself while talking to Odin and Hulk was trying to attack but that wasn't a whirlwind it was a dimensional barrier, although it was drawn like one.A Glory/Chaos King level whirlwind and lightning blast would certainly do serious damage but can he summon them near instantly? As Hulk knows how powerful Thor is and it's in his character to be all over his opponents, not giving them time to breathe or recover.
he was flyng during the chaos king altercation iirc....he could just stay in the air during the bout
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
By him, do you mean Thor? I think if Thor cuts loose and uses his other abilities, it forces Superman and Surfer to do something similar outside of simple blasting and punching. Likewise, if Surfer got exotic or Superman did something similiar, Thor would have to do something outside of hammer tosses and melee and he has the capability to do so. Hulk doesn't have that kind of versatility to keep up against the three top guns in comics. In order for Hulk to win or have a shot at winning, they literally have to fight Hulk on Hulk's terms.And lol at whirlwinds and lightning not doing anything to Hulk. Considering Thor's whirlwinds threw Glory for a loop (and have stopped Hulk before) and Thor's lightning damaged Chaos King among other immensely powerful beings, they're both effective against Hulk. And he does both of those more than enough for it not to matter if it's CIS off/on for Thor.
Take off your Hulk Goggles.
Ok, you just said that Thor used lightning to even damage chaos king. If you are saying that he would use these types of attacks while fighting Hulk, why not use it against Supes and Surfer? Hulk has the ability to close the gap and he also have super speed himself. Hell, I would put his speed OVER Thors. Let's not forget that Shield was shooting numerous of missles at WWH and he was slapping them out of the air during mid leap like he was playing baseball.
He also have super speed jumping as well. Thor would need distance to beat Hulk and that ain't happening because Hulk has that ability to close the gap like he always does. Hell, he didn't even give Gladiator breathing room... Be was all over him. This version of Hulk kills Thor. I don't think he can handle too many punches from Hulk and Hulk durability would keep him in the fight.
Originally posted by Sin I AM
he was flyng during the chaos king altercation iirc....he could just stay in the air during the bout
And Hulk would jump up there and bring him to the ground. Just that simple. We are talking about a guy that jumps continents within a short time. You are underestimating him. There are numerous of bricks that can take the big 3 for a majority. Doomsday, V&V Despero, Shaggyman, Kurse, Mangog, and the list goes on. You all are only saying this because its Hulk. If it was any one of the people above, this wouldn't be going on right now and the sad thing is, Hulk is stronger than every one of them that I have named.
Originally posted by carver9
To bad if they soloed they would most def get curbed. Thor has a hard time taking on Savage...what is he going to do against a Hulk that is far above Savage league in power. He needs a partner and even then he would probably get his neck twisted.
Thor could just not hold back and use his powers something he never does against Hulk.
Originally posted by Sin I AMThis plain and simple if Thor decides to brawl his chances of losing are high if he goes exotic he should have no problems beating Hulk. He's already beaten characters in one page he usually has a hard time fighting like Absorbing man and HULK utilizing his abilities they give him a decisive edge.Thor doesn't even have to get physical to beat Hulk it would be smarter if he didn't Mjolnir and his godly powers would put almost any brick down
your talking extremes here carver, im not tailoring my argument to suit thor. im just stating that using the full range of his abilities, he is out of hulks league plain and simple. its just that "in character" he likes to brawl. take that as u will
Originally posted by iceman24567
Thor can counter by hammer tossing Hulk away. Hulk can only beat Thor if he restricts himself
Don't think it works like that. Hulk was all over Wonderman and Ironman before they even had the chance to even move a muscle. He blitzed the hell out of them. Then we have the latest fight against him and the Avengers when he blitzed and punched everyone on the team before they had the chance to counter him (which led to them teleporting him and the Avengers to the desert). He also blitzed Gladiator before Glads had the chance to form an attack, etc, etc. Hulk can close the distance and immediately at that.