Originally posted by Harbingeractually kicking a shell is possible...as long as you are stronger than the force of the tank shell and have enough durability to withstand the hit
Neither is a character that can kick/redirect a tank shell.It's gotdamn comics. What do you expect?
a toothpick would simply splinter upon hitting a wall...no amount of force would make it crater a wall
Originally posted by KingD19What if taskmaster keeps changing styles which he can easily do .
The computer analyzes the situation and shows Mids most if not all possible scenarios for coming out on top in seconds. He picks the best one and does it.Taskmaster has no way to win.
This could stop the computer from analyzing scenarios for coming out on top.
Originally posted by godking
What if taskmaster keeps changing styles which he can easily do .This could stop the computer from analyzing scenarios for coming out on top.
When he got hundreds and thousands of scenarios for each bug, which equated to millions overall for how many of them it was. That showed that a single guy switching fighting styles won't help. Taskmaster is still human, with human weaknesses and no ability besides copying fighting styles.
Originally posted by Starscream M
that's not logically possible 😐
The explosive force could create a larger-than-tooth impact. Does a bomb create a bomb-sized hole in the ground? No, it explodes to do more damage.
Originally posted by Starscream M
a toothpick would simply splinter upon hitting a wall...no amount of force would make it crater a wall
Enough velocity and all sorts of objects could inflict meaningful harm on denser materials.
Also, it was a tooth, not a toothpick. Teeth are hard as hell.
Originally posted by Digi
?!His "vast majority of his appearances" don't contradict those mentioned. When has he displayed low durability or strength that contradicts these limits? Because showing a level of super strength isn't an anomaly when he doesn't always show those levels...it's only an anomaly when he has other appearances where his limit is shown to be far lower. I'd be interested to see your justification here.
Originally posted by Digi
Those feats and others exist in his respect thread (or the Authority respect thread, rather), including the speedster feat, fired tank shell redirection with his kick, taking the kick that sent him probably a mile with no ill effects, etc.
Originally posted by Digi
As for supporting evidence of strength: damaging Apollo,
Again i do not understand why we give MNer the benefit of the doubt, when we would not for countless other beings around his power level.
Originally posted by Digi
creating a head-sized chunk in a wall from simply spitting a tooth, matching Zealot for hours (also an insane skill, endurance and durability feat), those are off the top of my head. There may be others.
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Again how does Zealot support the tank feat? She has literraly no feats of strength that suggest she even capt level, let a lone strong enough to support the tank feat. If anything the fact she able to match his strength goes quite aaginst the idea that MN has the strength to kick a fired tank shell.
Originally posted by Digi
I like Taskmaster. I don't give a shit who "wins" this thread. I'm just not sure how MNer's feats are PIS when they're relatively reasonable given his other history.
Meh. This tends to happen a lot. People latch onto the best 1-2 feats of a character and the debate revolves around them. Whatever you think of this fight shouldn't change regardless of whether or not the tank feat ever happened.
For reference, I consider the Zealot feat to be more impressive than the tank shell one. And yes, she's displayed > peak human strength on numerous occasions, and it is frequently referenced as part of her Kheran biology. She is definitely stronger than MNer.
However, people are missing the forest for teh trees here. MNer's power is not in physical stats, though he has assorted feats to those ends. If you focus on physical stats vs. physical stats only, he would come out on the losing end of a lot of fights against opponents that he should beat. His true power comes in the fact that he literally takes the optimal avenue of attack in every situation. His opponents' advantage over him must be great enough to overcome this, which means they have to be at a level where there literally is no way for MNer to beat them. This is a very high degree of outclassing MNer for this to be possible. I do not believe Taskmaster possesses such an edge. His physical stats and skills can be and likely are similar, but that is not the point when it comes to MNer.