Hal Jordan & Sinestro vs. Adam Warlock & Magus

Originally posted by Bentley
So Sinestro never lost against Mongul? Good.

I'm simply pointing out that tricking a CC user is not much of a big deal as you try to put it, you're trying to make Magus sound more impressive than he was.

Sinestro beat the Weaponer and Kyle, that's more than Magus ever did.

Tricking a cc user while weakened and slowing things down to fake your own death is impressive.

Beating on the gotg while weakened which included a death forged weapon is a lot more impressive than Kyle and the weaponer.

Except it isn't. What has that sword done that is so impressive? I'm not sure if you're talking about Phyla's blade or Gamora's but the question is the same. Nothing impressive. Not. At. All.

In the other hand the Weaponer trashed an entire team of lanterns and Kyle is a proven top tier on his own right.

Also you fail at getting that Sinestro never lost against Mongul. It's funny how you're willing to defend Thanos when he was trashed by Odin, but Sinestro who actually koed his opponent and walked away with a smile "lost" in your eyes.

We've had this Magus discussion several times already, he got trashed by Vulcan, one-shotted by Marvell and overpowered by Black Bolt. Except he tricked some metas using illusions and suddenly that makes him incredible in your eyes.

Kang even stated that Magus would be weakened for about five seconds after the Guardians went against him, so when Starlord refused to kill him inmediately, he was already powering up.

Originally posted by Bentley
Except it isn't. What has that sword done that is so impressive? I'm not sure if you're talking about Phyla's blade or Gamora's but the question is the same. Nothing impressive. Not. At. All.

In the other hand the Weaponer trashed an entire team of lanterns and Kyle is a proven top tier on his own right.

Also you fail at getting that Sinestro never lost against Mongul. It's funny how you're willing to defend Thanos when he was trashed by Odin, but Sinestro who actually koed his opponent and walked away with a smile "lost" in your eyes.

We've had this Magus discussion several times already, he got trashed by Vulcan, one-shotted by Marvell and overpowered by Black Bolt. Except he tricked some metas using illusions and suddenly that makes him incredible in your eyes.

Kang even stated that Magus would be weakened for about five seconds after the Guardians went against him, so when Starlord refused to kill him inmediately, he was already powering up.

Magus never fought Vulcan. That was warlock not adam magus. I'd hope you would know the difference.

Yes, despite his weakened condition and the short time frame he had he still avoided death against the cc. What a tremendous feat.

Originally posted by quanchi112
The fact that it's a death forged blade that could kill the Magus. The fact that despite this it was nothing he couldn't battle through against a team pitted against him while he was in a weakened condition.

And that lousy blade gave him pretty much no trouble because anyone with a decent powerset could handle it. Magneto would've, Vulcan would've, or Iron Man. Color me unimpressed.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Magus never fought Vulcan. That was warlock not adam magus. I'd hope you would know the difference.

Except the story made it explicit that Warlock was Magus during the last few weeks, do you want me to pull a scan or did you actually read the comics?

Originally posted by quanchi112
Yes, despite his weakened condition and the short time frame he had he still avoided death against the cc. What a tremendous feat.

Beh. You missed the point. Lucky for you this random discussions don't have judges or anything remotely similar to public interest 😄

Originally posted by Bentley
And that lousy blade gave him pretty much no trouble because anyone with a decent powerset could handle it. Magneto would've, Vulcan would've, or Iron Man. Color me unimpressed.

Except the story made it explicit that Warlock was Magus during the last few weeks, do you want me to pull a scan or did you actually read the comics?

Beh. You missed the point. Lucky for you this random discussions don't have judges or anything remotely similar to public interest 😄

Magus wasn't in complete control yet until he actually changed over. The feat let down his last defenses and brought him completely out at that point.

Lucky for you they don't and undermining the Magus isn't saving Sinestro or Hal here.

Both Adam and Magus fighting as a team!

Oh man they win this.

Originally posted by the ninjak
Both Adam and Magus fighting as a team!

Oh man they win this.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Magneto, Vulcan, and Iron Man can't fake their own death with as little time as Magus did against a cc user while weakened. Nope.

I was referring to the sword which you brought up several time and has no relevance or whatsoever in making Magus "impressive". According to you tricking some metas is worth of the high herald status. Me don't buy.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Magus wasn't in complete control yet until he actually changed over. The feat let down his last defenses and brought him completely out at that point.

And yet Magus killed some guys before all this happened, because he was present nonetheless, and he fled from Vulcan too.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Lucky for you they don't and undermining the Magus isn't saving Sinestro or Hal here.

I was talking about your debating and double standards 😖hifty:

Vulcan absorbed magic like all energy types like a hoover. He fled cause he had bigger fish to fry.

Like summoning the Ancient Ones to obliterate the galaxy.

Originally posted by Bentley
I was referring to the sword which you brought up several time and has no relevance or whatsoever in making Magus "impressive". According to you tricking some metas is worth of the high herald status. Me don't buy.

And yet Magus killed some guys before all this happened, because he was present nonetheless, and he fled from Vulcan too.

I was talking about your debating and double standards 😖hifty:

Vulcan is tailor cut for this kind of character but the point is that wasn't Magus as of yet, fully.

I don't use double standards I expose my enemies for such treachery.

Originally posted by the ninjak
Vulcan absorbed magic like all energy types like a hoover. He fled cause he had bigger fish to fry.

Like summoning the Ancient Ones to obliterate the galaxy.

I'm not saying Vulcan isn't uber, I'm plainly stating that Magus never did anything that impressive. Saying that Vulcan's powerset defined his battle against Magus is just like saying Magus's powerset defined his battle against the Guardians. Is a matter of powerset, not sheer power.

Here, Magus is going to be overpowered.

Originally posted by Bentley
I'm not saying Vulcan isn't uber, I'm plainly stating that Magus never did anything that impressive. Saying that Vulcan's powerset defined his battle against Magus is just like saying Magus's powerset defined his battle against the Guardians. Is a matter of powerset, not sheer power.

Here, Magus is going to be overpowered.

No, way. Magus is too crafty, versatile, and effective to lose here.

Originally posted by quanchi112
No, way. Magus is too crafty, versatile, and effective to lose here.

How is he going to win this exactly? He'll be in the receiving end of herald level attacks from the beginning of the combat.

Two things.

1)I thought that the Magus was above high herald?

2) Why the hell is Sinestro rated so highly on this forum?

Originally posted by dmills
Two things.

1)I thought that the Magus was above high herald?

2) Why the hell is Sinestro rated so highly on this forum?

2. Sinestro is for all intents and purposes Hal's equal IMO (might be stronger or slightly weaker depending on how you view him), so he's a legit top tier.

Originally posted by Harbinger
1. Afro Magus is > HH. The most recent Magus, though? Bentley's not impressed.

2. Sinestro is for all intents and purposes Hal's equal IMO (might be stronger or slightly weaker depending on how you view him), so he's a legit top tier.

Ah I see.

Originally posted by Bentley
How is he going to win this exactly? He'll be in the receiving end of herald level attacks from the beginning of the combat.

Sinestro and Hal both are top tier Lanterns. They win a majority here

Originally posted by quanchi112
He can go astral form and probably just take the rings right off of them just like he did against the death blade.

Well, that's an interesting strategy -kudos- and it may work if not for shielding. I don't know if it's reasonable to remove a ring or the Quantum bands using that exact strategy, -maybe you mentioned this when we discussed Magus vs Agent Orange a while back-, considering they've safeguards unlike the sword.

Originally posted by Bentley
Well, that's an interesting strategy -kudos- and it may work if not for shielding. I don't know if it's reasonable to remove a ring or the Quantum bands using that exact strategy, -maybe you mentioned this when we discussed Magus vs Agent Orange a while back-, considering they've safeguards unlike the sword.