Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Odin is now in the Abstract tier.... Jesus H. Christ... what is this world coming to... You people are somethign else sometimes. Stalemating someone in a TP BATTLE ONLY doesn't mean you're equal to them in power. What is so hard to compute about that simple fact?
Galactus is sweatin' Tang and Odin hasn't even whipped out the big guns yet, like his Scepter or the Destroyer Armor. In a straight up fight, he's stalemating Galactus.
And this fight had nothing to do with me considering him "Abstract Tier". Show me what "Abstracts" like Love/Hate, the Celestials, Eon/Epoch, Kronos, etc.. have done that makes you believe Odin can't hang with them.
On panel proof only, no hyperbole or other such BS allowed. I'll give you several weeks.
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Odin is now in the Abstract tier.... Jesus H. Christ... what is this world coming to... You people are somethign else sometimes. Stalemating someone in a TP BATTLE ONLY doesn't mean you're equal to them in power. What is so hard to compute about that simple fact?
Originally posted by leonidas
i've always viewed the celestials as above galactus....
This is something that can be disputed, mostly considering showings such as the Thanos Imperative and Reed's own point of view. Again, most comics tiers are far from set in stone, specially in the high hierarchies.
No, most certainly he didn't. I can defend and argument and pretend that Celestials are clearly under Galactus but that's not clear cut at all. We know that some Celestials are more powerful than others, we know there are alternate Celestials but we don't know if Reed is aware of their lesser power.
All in all, comparing an entire race to a single character is tricky. Specially Galactus. Sometimes the guy is affected by Hiro-Kala or Gravity, some times he's the most relevant abstract in the book. I would understand if Galactus was afraid of Tiamut since the Black Celestial saga happened. Galactus wants balance, and some unaligned celestial like Tiamut is a very big threat to balance.
Reed with no prep loses to Tiamut. But HE with prep affects both Galactus and Tiamut.