Originally posted by golem370
But was that Classic Juggernaut even if he prone to physical damage he also has a healing factor and unending stamina he should be able to fight Hulk for ever.
Those were all classic Juggernaut. I dont know that he has a healing factor. In that McFarlane issue where he got his eyes cut out he did but thats the only showing AFAIK and that was a pretty weird instance. FWIW as an out of continuity appearance he also got KTFO by WW in Unlimited Access. I do think it points to the fact that hes not usually written as being totally invulnerable so much as very, very tough. Maybe you can rationalise it as most attacks wont even get through his forcefield or whatever.
Originally posted by Fifthchild
Those were all classic Juggernaut. I dont know that he has a healing factor. In that McFarlane issue where he got his eyes cut out he did but thats the only showing AFAIK and that was a pretty weird instance. FWIW as an out of continuity appearance he also got KTFO by WW in Unlimited Access. I do think it points to the fact that hes not usually written as being totally invulnerable so much as very, very tough. Maybe you can rationalise it as most attacks wont even get through his forcefield or whatever.
He regenerated instantly from a skeleton when he regained his full power. The cuts made by Feral disappeared quickly, too.
And in Thuderbolts it was stated by Beetle that while fully powered he can regenerate 😉
Originally posted by carver9The problem for lies in the fact Wendigo and Bi Beast power/strength was just Hyperbole statements with nothing back it up with any kind of proof on panel at all, the feats you tried ti discredit have proof to back them beat p.
you are being completely biased right now. If you can't accept one statement when it was pretty much made plain and clear that Bi-Beast AND Wendigo was amped due to a wish that was made then why accept statements involving Thanos? We do not have a recollection of what the amp that BB and Wendigo got UNLESS we have someone TELLING US how powerful they became with this amp. Just like we would have never known about the amount of power Galactus or Odin was using against Thanos WITHOUT THEM TELLING US WHAT THEY WERE USING. We would have never known if Thor with the Powergem was anymore powerful than WM Thor without statements and we would have never known that entering Warrior Madness Makes Thor 10 Times stronger than his normal self.Stop being biased and accept the truth UNLESS you would like to discredit ALL statements that have been brought up in comics.
Never mind eh son Hulk may beat someone half decent one day.
Originally posted by Nihilist
The problem for lies in the fact Wendigo and Bi Beast power/strength was just Hyperbole statements with nothing back it up with any kind of proof on panel at all, the feats you tried ti discredit have proof to back them beat p.Never mind eh son Hulk may beat someone hlaf decent one day.
With that said...Odin was holding back. I didn't see a Galaxy bust and the only thing we have to go on that Odin wasnt holding back is a statement but since we don't accept those... Odin is d*** liar. Forget the writers intention, we go by on panel power and since Odin didn't show 1% of what he is capable of in a fight, he was holding back. Galactus was holding back as well. Did he destroy a solar system while blasting Thanos shields...hell naw.
All statements are out the window. YEAH BAYBAY. 💃
Originally posted by carver9Cry all you want, if you cant accept the fact that Wendigo/Bi Beast was pure hyperbole, dont blame if you continue to look stupid.
With that said...Odin was holding back. I didn't see a Galaxy bust and the only thing we have to go on that Odin wasnt holding back is a statement but since we don't accept those... Odin is d*** liar. Forget the writers intention, we go by on panel power and since Odin didn't show 1% of what he is capable of in a fight, he was holding back. Galactus was holding back as well. Did he destroy a solar system while blasting Thanos shields...hell naw.All statements are out the window. YEAH BAYBAY. 💃
And again youre missing the whole point again, Odin/Galactus never said they were/werent going all out/holding back so there is no issue of hyperbolic statements about force/power or strength.
Originally posted by Nihilist
Cry all you want, if you cant accept the fact that Wendigo/Bi Beast was pure hyperbole, dont blame if you continue to look stupid.And again youre missing the whole point again, Odin/Galactus never said they were/werent going all out/holding back so there is no issue of hyperbolic statements about force/power or strength.
So you admit that Odin wasnt going all out? When going Warrior Madness how strong does Thor gets? How much more stronger is Kurse over Thor? Does the power gem grants complete invulnerability? Did Thanos use the gems when had the power gem against Earths heros? Yeah, I think he did. Prove me wrong. How far was Surfer when he tried to take the glove from Thanos?
Zeus wasnt amped when he dropped Galactus was he? He hit Hulk with the same blast that he hit Galactus with. The chaos king didn't amp Zeus at all. Prove me wrong.
So this statement from Odin was a lie? Thanks for letting me know that Nihilist.
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Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
He regenerated instantly from a skeleton when he regained his full power. The cuts made by Feral disappeared quickly, too.And in Thuderbolts it was stated by Beetle that while fully powered he can regenerate 😉
Good point about the skeleton bit, forgot that one. I suppose its a bit hard to tell since, while i still contend he has been hurt quite often, there are few instances of him being cut where a healing factor (or the absence of one) tends to be most obvious.
Originally posted by carver9Bwhahahah lulz
So you admit that Odin wasnt going all out? When going Warrior Madness how strong does Thor gets? How much more stronger is Kurse over Thor? Does the power gem grants complete invulnerability? Did Thanos use the gems when had the power gem against Earths heros? Yeah, I think he did. Prove me wrong. How far was Surfer when he tried to take the glove from Thanos?Zeus wasnt amped when he dropped Galactus was he? He hit Hulk with the same blast that he hit Galactus with. The chaos king didn't amp Zeus at all. Prove me wrong.
Originally posted by carver9Why would that be a lie, when Odin is stating he has had a fight like that for ages, meaning it was a long time since he faced a decent opponent, and not a bullshit statement assuming strength lvl. Understand Odin said something about his own action,did Wendigo/Bi Beast say or do anything to back up the hyperbole statement.
So this statement from Odin was a lie? Thanks for letting me know that Nihilist.http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=4512662
P.S. stop crying son
Originally posted by Nihilist
Bwhahahah lulz Why would that be a lie, when Odin is stating he has had a fight like that for ages, meaning it was a long time since he faced a decent opponent, and not a bullshit statement assuming strength lvl. Understand Odin said something about his own action,did Wendigo/Bi Beast say or do anything to back up the hyperbole statement.P.S. stop crying son
But it wasn't eons ago when he was in a fight with someone that aided him in shaking the universe. It wasn't eons ago where he fought someone that he used a Galaxy destroying blast against but his opponent was still standing. It wasn't eons ago when he faced Celestials. That was hyperbole to its finest buddy unless you can show me Odin doing something similar like shedding Galaxies or shaking universes when he fought Thanos.
Also, answer the above post. How strong is Thor when he goes Warrior Madness? How strong is Kurse. Was Thor amping himself when he was using the gem? How do you know if Thor was anymore powerful than his normal self? How strong was the doppelganger that Thanos fought?