Originally posted by ADarksideJedi
It is something that did happen. Mary did not sleep with any man and an angel went to him to tell him so. Now if the Angel did not then I can see your point but he did so theres your point.
You know that the Bible is not sufficient evidence to prove such a miracle, yeah? How do you have such certainty?
Originally posted by ADarksideJedi
Believe I believe in it. What proof do you have that the bible is not madeup"?
Ummm...I do believe the Bible is made up, why would I argue against that? There is the fact the none of the miracles in the Bible have had any evidence supporting them. There hasn't been an ark, no mass exodus, etc. Not to mention the hypocracies within the book that make it seem much more likely that it was imagined by a group of people rather than the infallible God it claims was the source.
Actly the ark has been found in a country I forget which one and alot of the miragle has happen. But alot of people these days seem to be impressed with stuff that happens around them all the time.
It is always about not believeing in less they see it themselves. Sometimes faith is all you need not just seeing it.
Uhhh...no it hasn't. If you are talking about what I think you are talking about then it was a multi-layered rock (from erosion) that happened to take on the form of a hull. It was also too small to be the Ark dimensions wise.
Again, faith is just a catch-all for not having any proof to justify highly impropable occurrences. These days it just seems less people are willing to blindly believe things based on faith. I find nothing wrong with that.
ADJ, where is this ark you speak up? Surely there's a link to the discovery, no?
Because, frankly, it's impossible in a number of geological and physical ways for the ark to have existed in anything resembling Biblical format. (Almost) no Christian takes it as a literal tale. It's a metaphor, a story, a story about obedience to God...not a literal history of a big boat.
Originally posted by Digi
ADJ, where is this ark you speak up? Surely there's a link to the discovery, no?Because, frankly, it's impossible in a number of geological and physical ways for the ark to have existed in anything resembling Biblical format. (Almost) no Christian takes it as a literal tale. It's a metaphor, a story, a story about obedience to God...not a literal history of a big boat.
I don't have a link and I am not sure where it was found. Just look online and I am sure you will find it.
Originally posted by ADarksideJedi
I don't have a link and I am not sure where it was found. Just look online and I am sure you will find it.
You're the one making the claim. We're back to burden of proof. My guess is, there's no proof and you're either uninformed about it or just making things up based on your beliefs.
Originally posted by ADarksideJedi
No it is the truth and if you don't want to believe it then don't.
*sigh*
I'm just asking you to provide some reasoning. You can't just say "this is true" and expect anyone to believe you, unless you provide them with some reasons for believing it. This is getting to be a hard conversation to have, because you're not demonstrating that you understand the need to support an argument properly.
Originally posted by ADarksideJedi
That is what you are saying and I don't see any kind of proof at all from you.
I'm not claiming anything. You're the one saying Noah's Ark was real. You have to provide evidence for it. Otherwise it's the same as saying "I have a pet zebra who is blue and can yodel" but not backing up your claim at all. No one should be expected to believe you until you provide them with valid reasons to believe.
Seriously, google "burden of proof."