Originally posted by carver9
Let's not name the people Wolverine has taken on.
Yeah, yeah, he started out taking on the Hulk. I'm aware of Logans history.
But that's a combination of his healing factor, adamantium skeleton, and agility. he's still the underdog against heavy hitters.
And he's not taking on Hulk here, or a comparable slow, lumbering brick.
He can be knocked out by a good, clean hit (Or enough good, clean hits. Wonder Man seemed well on his way to a KO with his cheap shot blitz attacks before Maxim butted in), as Namor and countless others have done in the past.
Originally posted by cdtm
Yeah, yeah, he started out taking on the Hulk. I'm aware of Logans history.But that's a combination of his healing factor, adamantium skeleton, and agility. he's still the underdog against heavy hitters.
And he's not taking on Hulk here, or a comparable slow, lumbering brick.
He can be knocked out by a good, clean hit (Or enough good, clean hits), as Namor and countless others have done in the past.
Show me Namor one shotting Wolverine without any outside circumstances. Wolverine has also taken on Ironman. Hell, during the infinite gauntlet run, Wolverine and Ironman squared off against each other in a ruthless fight and during the end of it, Wolverine was on top of Ironman with his claws out for the final blow.
Wolverinr has also taken it to Mimic who is> Ironman. He has taken direct hits from Sasquash and still had a smile on his face. He has taken on Rulk, Hulk, Colossus, Wendigo, Namor, Wonderman recently punched him which was stated as being hit by Sentry and Wolverine was ok, punched by Juggernaut, Thor and the list goes on. All of these people are stronger than
Ironman and Mandarin.
You thinking that he is one shotting Wolverine because he has taken on Ironman is ludicrous.
Originally posted by carver9
Show me Namor one shotting Wolverine without any outside circumstances. Wolverine has also taken on Ironman. Hell, during the infinite gauntlet run, Wolverine and Ironman squared off against each other in a ruthless fight and during the end of it, Wolverine was on top of Ironman with his claws out for the final blow.Wolverinr has also taken it to Mimic who is> Ironman. He has taken direct hits from Sasquash and still had a smile on his face. He has taken on Rulk, Hulk, Colossus, Wendigo, Namor, Wonderman recently punched him which was stated as being hit by Sentry and Wolverine was ok, punched by Juggernaut, Thor and the list goes on. All of these people are stronger than
Ironman and Mandarin.You thinking that he is one shotting Wolverine because he has taken on Ironman is ludicrous.
In that Thor vs Superman thread, if fans wanted to, they could point out numerous instances of Superman tanking hits, like against Mongul and Bizarro Superman, without seeming damage. But it'd be pretty ridiculous to use such examples to argue Supermans unkoable.. I'm a fan of the character, and I certainly don't think he's unkoable.
Do you think Wolverine is unkoable? Sometimes, it seems like you do, by your arguments..
Anyways, I'm not really arguing Mandarin one shot KO's Wolverine every time.. What I AM arguing, is that Manadarin has speed feats putting him well and above most bricks. More than enough speed feats to keep pace with Logan, if not prove he's faster.. Enough speed to land clean hits, instead of glancing blows. And, he has plenty of feats proving he can dish out the damage, as seen in any given fight vs Iron Man...
I don't see this as a stomp against Wolverine, by any means, but I can't see him getting only 1 win out of 10 either.
Not unless you think Wolverine simply can't be KOed.
Originally posted by cdtm
In that Thor vs Superman thread, if fans wanted to, they could point out numerous instances of Superman tanking hits, like against Mongul and Bizarro Superman, without seeming damage. But it'd be pretty ridiculous to use such examples to argue Supermans unkoable.. I'm a fan of the character, and I certainly don't think he's unkoable.Do you think Wolverine is unkoable? Sometimes, it seems like you do, by your arguments..
Anyways, I'm not really arguing Mandarin one shot KO's Wolverine every time.. What I AM arguing, is that Manadarin has speed feats putting him well and above most bricks. More than enough speed feats to keep pace with Logan, if not prove he's faster.. And, he has plenty of feats proving he can dish out the damage, as seen in any given fight vs Iron Man...
I don't see this as a stomp against Wolverine, by any means, but I can't see him getting only 1 win out of 10 either.
Not unless you think Wolverine simply can't be KOed.
Sigh*
No one is saying that wolverine will tank his hits...what I AM saying is that he will NOT get one shotted. Mandarin doesn't have a single ft showing he is on Wolverine level speed wise.
Mandarin would get crushed by Wolverine in h2h.
Originally posted by carver9
Sigh*No one is saying that wolverine will tank his hits...what I AM saying is that he will NOT get one shotted. Mandarin doesn't have a single ft showing he is on Wolverine level speed wise.
No rings in this example, which is obvious given he's restrained in chains and a straight jacket:
After the bullets are fired, Mandy intercepts them with his chain.
So there's your "single ft" showing he's on Wolverines level speed wise. 😛
Originally posted by Bentley
Logan gets no wins against the Rings.
If Stark can win, Wolverine, IMO, can win at the very least 1/10 with a lucky stab, or by sneak on him, and back stab him.
As for the fight w/o the rings: Mandarin can put some damage on Stark's suit, big whoop, Wolverine can damage the Hulk.
Originally posted by Bouboumaster
If Stark can win, Wolverine, IMO, can win at the very least 1/10 with a lucky stab, or by sneak on him, and back stab him.As for the fight w/o the rings: Mandarin can put some damage on Stark's suit, big whoop, Wolverine can damage the Hulk.
Beh, you're lowballing Mandarin then. IM >>>>>> Logan.