Originally posted by scyven
Bentley I think u post great stuff and know a lot about comic characters but I'm a little lost about what ur referring to with the "Huh" and this last comment lol please elaborate thnx 🙂
Ah, celeyhyga posted two of my comments that were radically different evaluations of this same battle.
Originally posted by scyven
Who is physically stronger Ultron or Apoc...I am going to assume to a stalemate on intelligence although I'm sure some will rip me for that lol
Apoc is potentially stronger than Ultron -he can increase his own strength-, but he cannot inflict physical damage to him, so it doesn't really matter. Apoc probably ends up falling to an encephalo ray at some point, despite of his powerful psychic defenses.
Originally posted by rotiart
Apocalypse may have come into his own finding the ship but recent revelations that celestials had plans for him means anything...1. The celestials could have altere him to be smarter
2. Directly fed knowledge into him...
3. Been given an incredibly user friendly ship that like cables graymalkin possibly responds to voice commands and helps you...
4. He ACTUALLY sat there reading something in a language with no sort of Rosetta stone to translate anything thus having no conceptual base to translate much less decipher and learn?Yah... I'm thinking someone gave him a lot of help.
Luckily that was actually addressed on panel. He was infected with a version of the Transmode virus prior to his encounter with the Cellestial Ship, which tried to defend itself against him, and he was unable to decipher the symbols until the virus allowed him to interface with it. He then spent the next millenia cracking open it's databases, studying, learning, and practicing what he learned as well as augmenting his body with the new knowledge. Afterwards he intermittently took time to travel around, spread his seed, conquer, and then take a nap for a century or so. This was later half assed retconned into the Cellestials lending the ship to him in order for him to be their servant later, but the means by which he attained the knowledge was not. He found the ship/was given the ship and then spent hundreds of years studying and experimenting on his own.
The Virus allowed him to read their (Celestials) language. Without the interface he was unable to read what was on the ships screens (remember, Apocalypse was originally from the dawn of the Bronze Age/Egyptian 1st Dynasty, and he himself was an uneducated slave and tribesman. Written language wasn't exactly in common use). Due to being infected with the techno organic virus he was able to interface with the ship and the language became legible to him, so he was then able to read all of the data and learn all of the sciences and technology in the Celestial's archives and began experimenting with genetics and augmenting his own body by incorporating the Celestial's technology with his own now techno-organic form.
So yes, the virus allowed him to learn how to use the Celestial Tech as it worked as a kind of Rosetta Stone for the Celestial's Language. He then spent a couple centuries in the ship mastering genetic and technological engineering and modifying himself into a techno-organic being.
Originally posted by scyven
So even with limitless strength Apoc still can't dent the adamantium shell?
Assuming that Apocalypse's strength is limitless because he can amp is one of the things we can't really do. But even if we give him grace to achieve Thor level strength, that alone can only dent adamantium in a superficial fashion, as I mentioned before, Ultron can control his shell and heal from such attacks.
With his powerset, Apoc is better off trying something else anyways, if he manages to sneak into Ultron's shell with his shapeshifting he could actually try to overcome his internal shielding.
Originally posted by MF DELPH
The Virus allowed him to read their (Celestials) language. Without the interface he was unable to read what was on the ships screens (remember, Apocalypse was originally from the dawn of the Bronze Age/Egyptian 1st Dynasty, and he himself was an uneducated slave and tribesman. Written language wasn't exactly in common use). Due to being infected with the techno organic virus he was able to interface with the ship and the language became legible to him, so he was then able to read all of the data and learn all of the sciences and technology in the Celestial's archives and began experimenting with genetics and augmenting his own body by incorporating the Celestial's technology with his own now techno-organic form.So yes, the virus allowed him to learn how to use the Celestial Tech as it worked as a kind of Rosetta Stone for the Celestial's Language. He then spent a couple centuries in the ship mastering genetic and technological engineering and modifying himself into a techno-organic being.
All that for you to say yes?
Hehe and my friends say I talk too much. :-P