The online message board decline

Originally posted by Nietzschean
Even if the majority wanted to push for a change it wouldn't help because we don't have an active administrator to help start the change, I don't think he be willing to even share admin rights with one or two active global mods..

Originally posted by Korto Vos
Right, but that push for an active admin or a global mod depends on the members' drive for a change.

The only forums that are seriously stale are the General Fiction and RPing forums.

These forums have seen a decline for a 3 reasons:

1) AWOL Admin
2) Big characters getting banned by trigger happy moderators.
3) Social media like Twitter and Facebook.

1) Quite simply Raz has ****ed off... He hasn't been on these forums in years. (Popping up once a year and making a post or two does not count.) Without forum consolidation posts are spread thinly across the dozens of forums so conversation doesn't occur. Without conversations new members aren't attracted to sign up and post. This = Dead forums.

2) Moderators have banned a number of heavy posting members for minor infringments. These members have been the backbone of the forums for years, and although their rule breaking shouldn't be ignored, banning them has been far more detrimental to the forums than their infringments ever were. Taking out a big character on the forums not only removes them, but anyone who posted because of them. A captain doesn't shoot the crew of a sinking shit... not matter how annoying they might be. This = Dead forums

3) Social media, probably the smallest reason of the 3, but one all the same. A lot of people have simply moved on to a different medium. Things like twitter and facebook will naturally reduce traffic to forums... as they will any site. Simply because a lot of people spend the majority of their online life on these websites. This = Maybe not 'dead forums'... but it didn't help.

I don't know Raz at all, but is it possible for him to pass the administrator role to someone else (one of our current moderators ), or appoint global moderators who would aim for forum consolidation and other changes?

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Originally posted by §P0oONY
These forums have seen a decline for a 3 reasons:

1) AWOL Admin
2) Big characters getting banned by trigger happy moderators.
3) Social media like Twitter and Facebook.

1) Quite simply Raz has ****ed off... He hasn't been on these forums in years. (Popping up once a year and making a post or two does not count.) Without forum consolidation posts are spread thinly across the dozens of forums so conversation doesn't occur. Without conversations new members aren't attracted to sign up and post. This = Dead forums.

2) Moderators have banned a number of heavy posting members for minor infringments. These members have been the backbone of the forums for years, and although their rule breaking shouldn't be ignored, banning them has been far more detrimental to the forums than their infringments ever were. Taking out a big character on the forums not only removes them, but anyone who posted because of them. A captain doesn't shoot the crew of a sinking shit... not matter how annoying they might be. This = Dead forums

3) Social media, probably the smallest reason of the 3, but one all the same. A lot of people have simply moved on to a different medium. Things like twitter and facebook will naturally reduce traffic to forums... as they will any site. Simply because a lot of people spend the majority of their online life on these websites. This = Maybe not 'dead forums'... but it didn't help.

QFT.

Tbh though, I don't see message boards 'dying out' just yet.

Message boards (or rather imageboards) like 4chan and Gaia Online are still (and WILL remain) active.
4chan is like the 'cradle of Internet memes' lol.

weve all grown up. the last generation found this to be the most fun and exciting use of their time{if they were probe to discussion or debate from comic books vs to philosophy and relegion}. internet speeds were slow, the options on what to do online were limited.

now, between torrents, youtube, twitter, blogging, and trying to make a living while not getting killed, people just cant care about forums.

other reasons:

people got tired of debating in circles and never came back

the mods were often assholes and didnt care which side was right or wrong in issuing warnings and ban

people had kids

people{who were once teens} are now adults and have a life to live and work

"killermovies" isnt exactly a name that attracts people. infact, if its werent for the comic book vs forums, i would have never cared to check out this place at all or thought that it had the kind of variety of debate and richness that it did.

its also something to consider that idiotic debating tactics and the generally americ0-centric/christian centric worldview of many posters has put others off from having a prodctive debate

flame wars

in essence, its the putting off and leaving of oldies in conjunction with the disability to attract new poeple.

Well, we've discussed this matter thoroughly enough.

If there will be any action, members have to agree to it and decide what to do next.

Originally posted by Korto Vos
Well, we've discussed this matter thoroughly enough.

If there will be any action, members have to agree to it and decide what to do next.

It would have to be mods or long-term active members communicating then, as they have the most 'authority'. And if the admin isn't active here, then it would have to be sent via email or something, idk.

Just so you're not thinking it is all ignored, pretty much every suggestion in here has been communicated to Raz over time.

It just has to be accepted he is a busy guy these days and make the best of what we have. I came here to talk Star Wars and set up and run the RPing area. Until the tv series comes, the first is in a quiet phase but my RPing is going as much as it ever did, so for me it's all good. If it's not good for you, then I'm sorry! But there's not much to be done, really.

If Raz does get the time to apply his full attention here, then all the suggestions about merging and transfers of power are already made. If he doesn't, then it doesn't matter what is suggested.

One way or another, the issue is not that no-one has had any ideas. But then, I don't really see a massive problem. Does this place have to be busy and huge? If it is a relic of another time, so what? I'll hang out in the relic.

(Speaking here pretty much as the poster with the longest clocked in time who is still active).

In the end... if you have suggestions, all you can do is put them in the Suggestion Thread. If you think that place is no good, then I am afraid you are fairly much out of options. There is no viable alternative route.

What does Raz do that keeps him so busy?

Originally posted by leonheartmm

its also something to consider that idiotic debating tactics and the generally americ0-centric/christian centric worldview of many posters has put others off from having a prodctive debate

i'll always be here

its fun

don't let the sillyness bother me

too grown for that

Originally posted by guy222
i'll always be here

I think another reason, from the KMC perspective is that other film sites are fortunate to have monthly magazines, bursting with content and information, which they then can invite you to their forums and it all goes from there really. I mean, thats where all the big reveals happen movie-wise so thats where people go and their forums increase because of that.

Originally posted by guy222
i'll always be here

I dunno why, but for some reason this is one of the forums I still frequent the most.

Originally posted by Korto Vos
Okay, coming back and seeing this decline, here's what I would suggest. Mind you, I'm not very knowledgeable about how to market a forum, but here are my thoughts:

1. Change the name. Killermovies Community Forum isn't a name that will attract new viewers. Another reason is that this forum has moved beyond discussions of "killer movies." We have tremendous diversity here, including an active Comic Books section, Sports, Role Playing, and even a Philosophy and Religion Forum.

Agreed. The name is misleading. Had I not clicked on when it came as a reference from google on a character I was trying to learn more about (I love those respect threads b the way), I would have never though it was anything more than a movie discussion site. I have still yet to even post on a movie forum on this site. lol I also happen to like the overall caliber of posters on this site compared to CBR. I haven't made any personal friends, but I do respect alot more of KMC posters' opinions than on other sites.

Originally posted by socool8520
lol I also happen to like the overall caliber of posters on this site

Originally posted by Quark_666
Here here.