Rematch: Juggernaut vs Onslaught h2h

Originally posted by Ptr_Grifin
I didn't say it was the problem, but it is part of the problem. People who haven't actually read the story tend to think he was beat in fisticuffs on panel which he wasn't. It is like when people say that Maestro killed Juggernaut or Thor, which he actuality did not. They may point to the "trophy room" which doesn't have any armor parts or the gem from Juggernaut, but at the same time it is NOT Maestro's trophy room. Rick explains what happened to the other big guns such as Thor who all died in the war.

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Onslaught still wins. It took Hulk losing his mind to reach enough strength to bust through Onslaught's armor, and even then that was what Onslaught wanted in the first place, so even that is iffy.

Originally posted by h1a8
So do you thing the hand going through Juggs is PIS (never mind the gem)?

Yes. The idea is ridiculous, and the art making it look like a child picking something up with their pointer finger and thumb, made it worse.

Originally posted by carver9
Stranged aided him in receiving his powers because Strange showed him a vision of Cytorrak borrowing Cain body, killing every being on the planet. Cain battles Cytorrak, gets his power back and never see Onslaught again.

Not quite. It was two others who entered the gem and helped Marko out. They showed him that if he kept the power, he would lead a path of destruction and eventually destroy all the ones he loved.

Also, there is no on panel fight or a description of what went down, besides Cain being hurled or thrown. Seeing as Juggs did not have a scratch or bruise on him (only torn cloths), Onslaught may have messed heavily with his mind, which to a degree was mentioned (his memory loss). Even with his helmet on, if the psychic can create a physical manifestation of their powers (i.e. Psylocke's psi-blade) they can go through the helmet. Onslaught being psionic entity, that would be no problem to replicate.

Even if Onslaught did cause some type of physical injury, Cain has a healing factor that would have or should have healed those injuries in mere seconds. Unlike Hulk, his healing factor isn't dependent on his rage or anger level nor should it be able to be taxed.

hulk stomps both of them

Hulk solos the omniverse.

Originally posted by Ptr_Grifin
Yes. The idea is ridiculous, and the art making it look like a child picking something up with their pointer finger and thumb, made it worse.

1. Franklin Richards Celestial level power may be enough to either grant Onslaught the necessary strength or just warp reality enough so that he can achieve the feat. A similar feat is when the Queen of Fables used reality warping to snap WW's lasso with ease.

2. Onslaught has no other showings to contradict the feat.

Originally posted by h1a8
I agree. What made me think it was plausible in the past though was:

1. Franklin Richards Celestial level power may be enough to either grant Onslaught the necessary strength or just warp reality enough so that he can achieve the feat. A similar feat is when the Queen of Fables used reality warping to snap WW's lasso with ease.

2. Onslaught has no other showings to contradict the feat.

Onslaught didnt have Nate or Franklin powers when he curbed Juggernaut. He was only filled with Xavier and Mags powers. Imagine what a full power Onslaught would do. A Onslaught that has Nate and Franks powers.

Can we all say "curb stomp"?

Originally posted by carver9
Onslaught didnt have Nate or Franklin powers when he curbed Juggernaut. He was only filled with Xavier and Mags powers.

Originally posted by carver9
Imagine what a full power Onslaught would do. A Onslaught that has Nate and Franks powers.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
he would have had to read the comics to know that

hulk crushed that version 😮‍💨

I know 😄

Originally posted by Zack Fair
Hulk solos the omniverse.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
he would have had to read the comics to know that

hulk crushed that version 😮‍💨

Context.

Plus that Hulk was beyond all other Hulks that ever lived.

Originally posted by h1a8
Context.

Plus that Hulk was beyond all other Hulks that ever lived.

Please no one respond to this mess.

The big O!

F*ck Onslaught, f*ck what happened in the comic with the damn gem.

Juggernaut wins because he wins.

Originally posted by carver9
Please no one respond to this mess.

Originally posted by Nihilist
No bullshit gem stealing, no bfr

Who wins?

lolz my boy onslaught beats Juggernaut again